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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18900 on: July 23, 2023, 12:20:00 PM »
I personally didn't know much about COVID early on obviously.  I don't think anyone did.  Hence this enormous thread.  "We" here were searching for information about it, how bad it could be, what was happening in Italy, whether it would die out or be like 1918-19, whether a vaccine might be developed in time for anything, etc.

I haven't seen compelling clear evidence that folks in our government knew much about this and just didn't tell us (or Trump).  I don't know why this would happen.
I wasn't talking about OUR government.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18901 on: July 23, 2023, 01:17:13 PM »
Yeah, I was thinking our "government" didn't do such a great job in the pandemic as it was.  I forgive some of it because so little was known initiallly.
I was commenting on our government.  I have no idea what the Chinese may have known, it's pretty much entirely speculation.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18902 on: July 23, 2023, 03:31:23 PM »

May 2018The Trump Administration disbands the White House pandemic response team.
July 2019The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency left the post, and the Trump Administration eliminated the role.
Oct. 2019“Currently, there are insufficient funding sources designated for the federal government to use in response to a severe influenza pandemic.”
Jan. 22, 2020“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
Jan. 24, 2020Trump praises China’s handling of the coronavirus: “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
Jan. 28, 2020“This will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency...This is going to be the roughest thing you face" Trump’s National Security Advisor to Trump
Jan. 30, 2020"The lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on US soil,...This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.” [Memo from Trump Trade Advisor Peter Navarro]
Feb. 2, 2020“We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
Feb. 7, 2020“It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu... This is deadly stuff” [Trump in a private interview with Bob Woodward from The Washington Post made public on Sept. 9, 2020]
Feb. 10, 2020“I think the virus is going to be—it’s going to be fine.”
Feb. 10, 2020“Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”
Feb. 24, 2020“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… the Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb. 25, 2020“CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
Feb. 25, 2020“I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
Feb. 26, 2020“The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
Feb. 26, 2020“We're going very substantially down, not up.”
Feb. 26, 2020“Well, we're testing everybody that we need to test. And we're finding very little problem. Very little problem.”
Feb. 26, 2020"This is a flu. This is like a flu."
Feb. 27, 2020“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18904 on: July 23, 2023, 04:01:14 PM »
All I could have posted was the top entry.  Most of the rest was predictable.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18905 on: July 23, 2023, 04:07:43 PM »
I didn't view out government's response to COVID as having much to do with Trump.  Yes, he caused a few things to happen, but mostly he seemed to me just to be grandstanding.  I guess he did something to get the vaccine program accelerated, I was never clear on what specifically.

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« Reply #18906 on: July 23, 2023, 04:08:14 PM »
All I could have posted was the top entry.  Most of the rest was predictable. 
What you posted was the standard “ it’s all Trumps fault” edition. 

Factually- even when he tried to do the right thing- the DEMS fought against it, we’re in complete denial, and skirted all of their responsibility- through their bought and paid for media.
Trump gets no free ride here, but the media/ left narrative is revisionist history.  And much of their narrative has been completely debunked as it relates to lock down, masks, origin, vaccines, etc. etc.
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« Reply #18907 on: July 23, 2023, 04:18:40 PM »
What you posted was the standard “ it’s all Trumps fault” edition. 

Factually- even when he tried to do the right thing- the DEMS fought against it, we’re in complete denial, and skirted all of their responsibility- through their bought and paid for media.
Trump gets no free ride here, but the media/ left narrative is revisionist history.  And much of their narrative has been completely debunked as it relates to lock down, masks, origin, vaccines, etc. etc.

Can you comment on the top 2 entries?  Anything?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18908 on: July 23, 2023, 05:06:53 PM »
Can you comment on the top 2 entries?  Anything?
Sure. Not very smart moves in hindsight.  Not sure what the reasoning would be.  Cost cutting?   Didn’t trust the work being done?   Not sure. 

Also not sure it would have made much difference. Nobody seemed to understand what was just unleashed in the world- Trump included.  Virtually all of his actions- once the severity was clear- was vehemently opposed by the left and the media.  

 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18910 on: July 23, 2023, 09:46:04 PM »
May be an image of 1 person, welcome mat and text that says 'Remember when this was going to save your life 1 One Oneway way'
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« Reply #18912 on: July 24, 2023, 07:51:56 AM »
May 2018The Trump Administration disbands the White House pandemic response team.
July 2019The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency left the post, and the Trump Administration eliminated the role.
Oct. 2019“Currently, there are insufficient funding sources designated for the federal government to use in response to a severe influenza pandemic.”
Jan. 22, 2020“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
Jan. 24, 2020Trump praises China’s handling of the coronavirus: “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
Jan. 28, 2020“This will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency...This is going to be the roughest thing you face" Trump’s National Security Advisor to Trump
Jan. 30, 2020"The lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on US soil,...This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.” [Memo from Trump Trade Advisor Peter Navarro]
Feb. 2, 2020“We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
Feb. 7, 2020“It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu... This is deadly stuff” [Trump in a private interview with Bob Woodward from The Washington Post made public on Sept. 9, 2020]
Feb. 10, 2020“I think the virus is going to be—it’s going to be fine.”
Feb. 10, 2020“Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”
Feb. 24, 2020“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… the Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb. 25, 2020“CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
Feb. 25, 2020“I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
Feb. 26, 2020“The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
Feb. 26, 2020“We're going very substantially down, not up.”
Feb. 26, 2020“Well, we're testing everybody that we need to test. And we're finding very little problem. Very little problem.”
Feb. 26, 2020"This is a flu. This is like a flu."
Feb. 27, 2020“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”


Now do Saint Fauci.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18913 on: July 24, 2023, 08:52:59 AM »
Didn't Pelosi encourage people to get out, mingle, and hug someone in Chinatown?  That's actually more dangerous than the quotes from Trump, above.

Suffice to say, the politicians on #bothsides missed pretty badly, and a lot of it was because they politicized it from the beginning in an attempt to tear down the other party.


 

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