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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18648 on: March 07, 2023, 09:45:30 AM »
Most would agree the "System" is broken, not as many agree on how to fix it.

At any rate, I noted that Covid had nearly zero impact on our 3 week cruise and trip.  I was thinking a large cruise ship is basically a Petri dish for infections.  

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« Reply #18649 on: March 07, 2023, 09:53:20 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 07, 2023, 09:45:30 AM
Most would agree the "System" is broken, not as many agree on how to fix it.

At any rate, I noted that Covid had nearly zero impact on our 3 week cruise and trip.  I was thinking a large cruise ship is basically a Petri dish for infections. 


Most, if not all, cruise lines spent millions to upgrade filtration systems that were already very good.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18650 on: March 09, 2023, 06:51:42 AM »
I get an email each day from the NYT (it's free) on varying topics, this is part of today's:


A new House committee investigating the origins of Covid opened its first public hearing yesterday with plenty of political theater. Republicans accused Dr. Anthony Fauci of covering up the virus’s origins, and Democrats criticized those claims as biased and unsubstantiated. But lawmakers displayed bipartisan agreement on one point: The virus really may have come from a laboratory in China.

“Whether it was a lab leak or infection through animals, I think we’ve got to pursue both of those paths if we are ever to get the truth,” Representative Kweisi Mfume, Democrat of Maryland, said.
Such agreement might have been surprising not long ago. From the start of the pandemic, the idea of a lab leak was fraught. Some scientists treated it as an outright conspiracy theory. Many Democratic politicians, journalists and others instead embraced the explanation that the virus jumped from animals to humans.
Now, the F.B.I. and the Energy Department, which employ leading U.S. scientists, say a lab is the likely origin. But they remain uncertain, and four other U.S. intelligence agencies say, with low confidence, that it more likely originated in animals.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18651 on: March 09, 2023, 06:52:59 AM »
My own "notion" I've never seen suggested.  That is that the Chinese lab wanted bat specimens and sent animal finders to collect them in China and the bats were infected and the animal dudes contracted COVID and then spread it.

I don't know of course if this is realistic, but it seems possible anyway.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18652 on: March 09, 2023, 07:01:24 AM »
Need to get over that zoonotic hump, friend.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18653 on: March 09, 2023, 07:11:52 AM »
I'd traverse that hump given solid information, which I doubt we'll ever have.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18654 on: March 09, 2023, 07:29:29 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 09, 2023, 07:11:52 AM
I'd traverse that hump given solid information, which I doubt we'll ever have. 
We had solid information back in April 2020. (Some? Most?) People just didn't want to hear it.

Made in a lab with our money. Intentionally spread 'round the world.

CCP Mission Accomplished.

Even the FBI is acknowledging. Of course...


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18655 on: March 09, 2023, 08:25:52 AM »
Leaked from the lab is very different from contrived in the lab and leaked with intent.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18656 on: March 09, 2023, 08:27:49 AM »
CCP.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18657 on: March 09, 2023, 08:48:49 AM »
Leaked from a lab that works on gain of function with Coronaviruses. Sometimes, the most logical explanation is also the simplest. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18658 on: March 09, 2023, 04:42:19 PM »
Maybe, I think "we" really don't know much about the origins.  And likely won't learn more.  It strikes me as conjecture.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18659 on: March 10, 2023, 07:53:25 AM »
Many investigations from around the world are yielding results that say it came from a lab.

This was a conspiracy theory 3 years ago, if you recall.

Maybe it came from a bat in a wet market inside the lab?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18660 on: March 10, 2023, 08:01:56 AM »
Sure, a lot of places now say it's possible it leaked from the lab.  I think "we" all knew that was a possibility years ago.  What has shaded is the probability of one over the other, though many "investigations" still maintain it came from the market.  And it could be an entirely "natural" virus that leaked from said lab, unintentionally.  

There clearly is dispute about its origins.  I offered a third possibility.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18661 on: March 10, 2023, 08:02:55 AM »
I offered a fourth.
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