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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18578 on: February 21, 2023, 07:35:43 PM »
Do I need to post Trump's every public statement about it from Jan to April of that year?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18579 on: February 21, 2023, 07:39:59 PM »
I'll ask this again, until it gets answered. 
Honestly we had evidence from France who didn't close their schools initially. Same with Sweden. 

The biggest thing is that we knew WELL before the 2020 fall school schedule that kids were basically not threatened by COVID. So it was never about protecting the kids. The question then became "well what about the teachers or someone elderly in the kids' home?" The France/Sweden data would have also justified that kids weren't as significant vector of transmission. 

But the smart thing would have been to give parents a choice during the 2020-21 school year of remote vs in-person instruction. That way parents who were fearful or perhaps had an at-risk person (immunocompromised, elderly, obese, diabetes, etc) in the house could choose remote, while those who didn't have those issues could choose in-person. You could have segregated the kids based on those choices such that older teachers could handle remote teaching while younger teachers (who had little to fear from COVID) could continue teaching in-person. 

It might have been a little messy. But it also would have helped many of the kids who fell WAY behind during that period.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18580 on: February 22, 2023, 07:45:18 AM »
What month/year did we KNOW these things? 
We were told immediately to not wear masks. Then we were told we had to wear masks.

We were told if we got Covid, we couldn't get it again.

We were told that if we got the vaccine, we couldn't get Covid.

Yet you still support these clowns.

Some states knew early on that the best thing to do was to protect the vulnerable (nursing homes) and to allow people make their own choices.

April/May 2020, to answer your silly question.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18581 on: February 22, 2023, 07:47:17 AM »
Do I need to post Trump's every public statement about it from Jan to April of that year?
Yeah, start with the one about closing travel to/from China.

Just don't do it on this thread.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18582 on: February 22, 2023, 08:22:30 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18583 on: February 22, 2023, 10:45:21 AM »
no
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18584 on: February 22, 2023, 12:31:30 PM »
Sadly, you are probably correct.

However, half of the states did learn a lesson - some earlier than others.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18585 on: February 22, 2023, 05:12:03 PM »
Sadly, you are probably correct.

However, half of the states did learn a lesson - some earlier than others.
Of course not. It was never based on science, despite the loud cackling and screaming of those who said it was.  
It was political, intentional and created to divide. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18587 on: February 23, 2023, 09:50:43 AM »
https://paragoninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/20230201_Zinberg_FreedomWinsStateswithLessRestrictiveCOVIDPoliciesOutperformedStateswithMoreRestrict.html



Sounds exactly like what some folks around here were saying around May 2020.

Look, I understand that a lot of the decisions made, were "out of an abundance of caution" and I'm truly not making fun of that statement.  But what it necessarily implies, is that approaching these issues with "an abundance of caution" isn't necessarily the best route to take, and that all factors must be considered when forming public policy, not just one or two very narrow ones.

Still, I can forgive the folks that truly did make decisions "out of an abundance of caution."

What I can't forgive, is the people that made decisions based purely on politics, and especially identity politics.  Nor can I forgive the people that banged the "Follow the Science" drum well after it was evident that "The Science" didn't support their positions and decisions.  They used that phrase like a hammer to bludgeon their opposition, in an attempt to appear enlightened, and their failures created unnecessary social costs that will continue to harm our society for a generation.

Anyway, like I said almost three years ago, the spring of 2020 was the last time we'll ever see wholesale widespread government mandates for lockdowns, in the USA.  It will never be allowed to happen again.

Oh, and also, Area Under The Curve.  Learn it, know it, live it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18588 on: February 23, 2023, 10:07:41 AM »
Sounds exactly like what some folks around here were saying around May 2020.

Look, I understand that a lot of the decisions made, were "out of an abundance of caution" and I'm truly not making fun of that statement.  But what it necessarily implies, is that approaching these issues with "an abundance of caution" isn't necessarily the best route to take, and that all factors must be considered when forming public policy, not just one or two very narrow ones.

Still, I can forgive the folks that truly did make decisions "out of an abundance of caution."

What I can't forgive, is the people that made decisions based purely on politics, and especially identity politics.  Nor can I forgive the people that banged the "Follow the Science" drum well after it was evident that "The Science" didn't support their positions and decisions.  They used that phrase like a hammer to bludgeon their opposition, in an attempt to appear enlightened, and their failures created unnecessary social costs that will continue to harm our society for a generation.

Anyway, like I said almost three years ago, the spring of 2020 was the last time we'll ever see wholesale widespread government mandates for lockdowns, in the USA.  It will never be allowed to happen again.

Oh, and also, Area Under The Curve.  Learn it, know it, live it.


Extremely well said.  Fully agree with every word.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18589 on: February 26, 2023, 10:33:28 AM »



https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a?st=y5tnd8chr1i2yaz&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18590 on: February 26, 2023, 10:54:26 AM »
most likely?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18591 on: February 26, 2023, 12:07:32 PM »
Most likely, because I don't think we'll ever have enough data to say anything definitively about it.  The CCP has made sure of that.

 

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