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Just back from Kroger, went during "senior hour", which wasn't really being enforced, the security guard showed up as I was leaving.  They were at about 85% stockage, even some TP was present, not much left.  No quotas.  Bread was in short supply was enough was there for an hour or so.  Eggs were there.  Veggies aplenty.  Dried beans were rare.  Plenty of canned goods.  Ground beef was low.

I recall thinking we could have a supply collapse back then.  I still have a box of oatmeal from then.

School reopening timing varied all over the map, right?  I don't think there was some specific date determined by "science" for any of that, everyone was seat of the pantsing.  We also knew pretty early on that this largely hit elderly hard, not young folks, and not kids.  The biggest mistake made in my mind was the notion that various steps would END the outbreak.  Closing schools was intended to cut down on transmission, and that was never going to work very well.  Maybe "we" didn't know it at the time, but I think "we" did know it by the end of 2020.

Learning (through the data) that kids didn't get COVID hardly at all was a very different fact that whether they could carry it and have it spread from home-to-school  or vice-versa.  That was a later data point.  

Some of you seem to think that what turned out to be a poor or ineffective decision was a sin, when in reality, it was perfectly prudent in the face of a novel virus.

We had precisely the wrong leader in power when this thing hit. 

I think the data show pretty clearly that nobody else handled this very well either.  We can of course believe "if only Obama had been President, it would have been far better", but I do not.  

I believe you, but that's not the reality in AZ.  I can only speak on what I observe.

And maybe your teacher's union is inept, but that has nothing to do with AZ's being a RTW state.

And maybe your teacher's union is inept, but that has nothing to do with AZ's being a RTW state.

I've worked for 3 different districts in AZ and none of their unions have had any power, regardless of the buy-in.  As I've already said, I believe you, but I guess it doesn't matter.

Let's stipulate Trump told lies and made ridiculous statements.  Did it matter in the long run?

Biden claimed to have a "PLAN", and Trump didn't.  I'm still waiting.

many leaders were making blatantly false statements back then

including the CDC


some because of ignorance
some because of different motivations