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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18424 on: January 28, 2023, 11:52:25 AM »
I guess the Swedes are just smarter than us.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18425 on: January 28, 2023, 11:59:36 AM »
Half the people on this forum are smarter than the other half.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18426 on: January 28, 2023, 12:01:44 PM »
We sure as hell better close the schools if a NOVEL pandemic virus is spreading like wildfire that we know nothing about.  The more accurate statement would be that schools were closed too long or that online learning went on too long.  Schools were closed until the science was known, not in spite of it. 
Bull. Shit.

Schools were kept closed at the behest of Teacher Unions. End of story.

The science my ass.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18427 on: January 28, 2023, 12:05:55 PM »
You're chasing your tail.
I honestly don't want to waste the time to explain why your article is a waste of time.
How about some bullet points:
a - the initial vaccines came out very quickly, and so there was skepticism
b - the hesitation was led by Dems, for political reasons (and they were wrong - this is your point, but there's baggage)
c - it made sense to be skeptical of vaccines that came out so quickly, as they were created by a relatively new/different method
d - once the vaccines proved to be mostly effective/safe, those opinions magically stopped coming from Dems and shifted over to mouth-breathing rural Reps, while clutching their guns and wearing their red, white, and blue undies
e - Trump had fuck-all to do with the way the vaccines were produced
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I do give up.  I give up on you ever seeing the world through untinted glasses. 





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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18428 on: January 28, 2023, 12:06:52 PM »
Bull. Shit.

Schools were kept closed at the behest of Teacher Unions. End of story.

The science my ass.
Another example of his bullshit. Another example of him doing exactly what he is accusing others of. Telling lies and having it hurt people who are too stupid to think for themselves and look at the facts on the data
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18429 on: January 28, 2023, 12:12:21 PM »
You're chasing your tail.
I honestly don't want to waste the time to explain why your article is a waste of time.
How about some bullet points:
a - the initial vaccines came out very quickly, and so there was skepticism
b - the hesitation was led by Dems, for political reasons (and they were wrong - this is your point, but there's baggage)
c - it made sense to be skeptical of vaccines that came out so quickly, as they were created by a relatively new/different method
d - once the vaccines proved to be mostly effective/safe, those opinions magically stopped coming from Dems and shifted over to mouth-breathing rural Reps, while clutching their guns and wearing their red, white, and blue undies
e - Trump had fuck-all to do with the way the vaccines were produced
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I do give up.  I give up on you ever seeing the world through untinted glasses. 





Virtually everything you posted is completely false- and revisionist history. 

it is humorous. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18430 on: January 28, 2023, 12:47:53 PM »
Bull. Shit.

Schools were kept closed at the behest of Teacher Unions. End of story.

The science my ass.
The schools that opened back up did so when they knew it was safe to.  
I should have worded that more precisely.  Thank you.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18431 on: January 28, 2023, 12:48:42 PM »
Virtually everything you posted is completely false- and revisionist history. 

it is humorous. 
I don't know what to say about your posts......likewise? 
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This is the fun of a post-truth society. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18432 on: January 28, 2023, 12:50:26 PM »
You just can’t stand that there are hundreds of examples of your “side“ doing exactly what you’re accusing others of butte. Making blatantly false statements or political gain, having your dumbass minions believe it, and causing death and pain.  Talk about somebody looking at the world through tinted glasses, holy shit you take the cake
That's not "my side," no mater how much you want it to be.
Also, I've twice now said both parties acted poorly.  For some reason, you seem unable to say it.  I wonder why.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18433 on: January 28, 2023, 12:54:22 PM »
The schools that opened back up did so when they knew it was safe to. 
I should have worded that more precisely.  Thank you.
still incorrect. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18434 on: January 28, 2023, 12:57:56 PM »
still incorrect.
It's correct, just perhaps in places you don't live or FoxNews doesn't report on.
All  the (urban) school districts in AZ (a right-to-work state, where unions have little-to-no power), gave online-only options and while opening back up to in-person schooling.
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State and local, remember?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18435 on: January 28, 2023, 01:00:10 PM »
School reopening timing varied all over the map, right?  I don't think there was some specific date determined by "science" for any of that, everyone was seat of the pantsing.  We also knew pretty early on that this largely hit elderly hard, not young folks, and not kids.  The biggest mistake made in my mind was the notion that various steps would END the outbreak.  Closing schools was intended to cut down on transmission, and that was never going to work very well.  Maybe "we" didn't know it at the time, but I think "we" did know it by the end of 2020.

As for asserting this politician or that was critically damaging to the efforts, I disagree.  The idea that just about anyone else as President would have done a LOT better is not something to which I subscribe.  Nobody anywhere did a lot better except perhaps some island nations or nations that could be totally isolated because they are dictatorships.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18436 on: January 28, 2023, 01:01:11 PM »
All  the (urban) school districts in AZ (a right-to-work state, where unions have little-to-no power), gave online-only options and while opening back up to in-person schooling.
Right to work states do have unions, and they have whatever power any union can have.  Public employee unions have a lot of power and influence.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18437 on: January 28, 2023, 01:19:23 PM »
If this doesn't bother you, I don't know what more to say.

Powerful teachers union influenced CDC on school reopenings, emails show (nypost.com)
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