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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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MrNubbz

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18354 on: January 26, 2023, 03:24:04 PM »
I'm not an anti-vaxxer, btw.  Far from it.*  But I do think the rush to crown the covid vaccines as must-have, can't-miss, this will save us all, you must inject this into your body and your employees, was medically unwarranted, not to mention a serious gub'ment overreach. 
neither am I but Big Pharma and their investors pushed the panic button to meet their bottom line as much as to beat the virus
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18355 on: January 26, 2023, 03:57:05 PM »
All of you fools can enjoy your echo chamber here, but keep in mind that it's only the slightest bit warranted post the 2nd summer of it, okay? 
The novelty of it made it vital to be extra cautious and producing the vaccines in a quicker, alternate way did save lives. 
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My takeaway from the whole damn thing is that this was a relatively mild practice run on how we fare vs. pandemics and we failed in every conceivable way. 
It's not a right vs wrong or political thing, it's a total failure of preparedness, response, and attitude.
You are in your own echo chamber and refuse to adapt to new data, information, the reality that we have been lied to since January 2020, etc.

Then there are those of us who do adapt, do research, sift and winnow, change opinions, think for ourselves, etc.

Example: I thought having spring break 2020 was irresponsible. Turns out it was a bunch of healthy people, outside, in a warm and humid environment.

In 2023 (actually early 2021) I can say I was wrong.

See how this works?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18356 on: January 26, 2023, 03:57:44 PM »
neither am I but Big Pharma and their investors pushed the panic button to meet their bottom line as much as to beat the virus
They got one of those right.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18357 on: January 26, 2023, 04:19:52 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18358 on: January 26, 2023, 04:26:45 PM »
I don't wish I hadn't got the first two shots

didn't help me, cause I didn't get COVID until a year or better later

didn't hurt me either.  No side affects and was a free shot

that said, I won't be getting any boosters unless something changes drastically 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18359 on: January 26, 2023, 06:16:42 PM »
That's me.

Wife and I got covid about 6 months after the vax.  At the time, 6 months was thought to perhaps be the limit of the Moderna and Pfizer versions' effectiveness, though no one really knew.  And as my medical wife is always wont to tell me, there's so many factors in play that it's not as simple as "how long does it last?" even if years of data have been piled up.  Turns out the body is super complicated.  Who knew.  (fyi, the vax may have helped you, even if you didn't get the virus until a year later.  Or it may not have helped you.  There's no solid answer on that and anybody who says otherwise is fooling themselves.)

Anyway, we did more than fine but we'll never know how much was benefit of the vax and how much was just we're sort of young and have no exacerbating risk factors mixed with our immune systems' natural response. 

At the time I felt like we had pretty good reasons to get it when it came out, largely having to do with for our patient's sake since we're in close contact with elderly people with conditions so much.  We thought we were reducing their chances of getting infected by us, and in a way that was probably true.  Never got any boosters, tho, and don't plan on it. 

I'll tell you this--I'd be lying if I said it didn't make me nervous at the time.  It was offered to medical personnel first, probably for that very reason, and because I'm a pencil pusher who works at a clinic I qualify as medical personnel.  So we got it just as it was coming out, before anybody in our area.  Me not being the medical brain my boss or my wife is, I was very apprehensive about it and I basically did it because they had kept on top of the developments and felt confident in the safety of the vaccines.  If not for their comfortability with it I doubt I'd have ever gotten vax'd.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18360 on: January 26, 2023, 06:32:30 PM »
You are in your own echo chamber and refuse to adapt to new data, information, the reality that we have been lied to since January 2020, etc.

Then there are those of us who do adapt, do research, sift and winnow, change opinions, think for ourselves, etc.

Example: I thought having spring break 2020 was irresponsible. Turns out it was a bunch of healthy people, outside, in a warm and humid environment.

In 2023 (actually early 2021) I can say I was wrong.

See how this works?
He also refuses to admit when he is wrong- like on everything related to Covid.

and saying it wasn’t politics- nuts.  That’s ALL it was.  Still is.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18361 on: January 26, 2023, 09:19:25 PM »
That's me.


I'll tell you this--I'd be lying if I said it didn't make me nervous at the time.  It was offered to medical personnel first
I waited a while

I wasn't nervous when I got the jab, but would have been if had been one of the first

I have no reservations about some vax issues years down the road a Tall
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18362 on: January 27, 2023, 07:02:03 AM »
neither am I but Big Pharma and their investors pushed the panic button to meet their bottom line as much as to beat the virus
Pfizer has not done all that well in the stock market.  Moderna has, this was its sole product (almost).  Their stock symbol is MRNA.  

When testing vaccine efficacy, it takes a long time when the disease is rare, and much shorter when "nearly everyone has it" for obvious reasons.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18363 on: January 27, 2023, 07:04:25 AM »
NIH didn't track U.S. funds going to Chinese virus research, watchdog finds (yahoo.com)
NIH didn't track U.S. funds going to Chinese virus research, watchdog finds (yahoo.com)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18364 on: January 27, 2023, 10:48:49 AM »


Example: I thought having spring break 2020 was irresponsible. Turns out it was a bunch of healthy people, outside, in a warm and humid environment.


Well in theory I agree that it shouldn't be all that dangerous for transmission, but then again, when you think about what occurs during Spring Break...




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18365 on: January 27, 2023, 11:05:39 AM »
Who doesn't like butt-flavored beer?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18366 on: January 27, 2023, 11:42:22 AM »
Pretty sure COVID would be the thing I'd be least worried about transmission there. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18367 on: January 27, 2023, 11:48:18 AM »
Who thinks of doing shit like that? Seriously?
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