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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17808 on: April 04, 2022, 02:40:57 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 30, 2022, 08:58:53 AM
Mine was, so I'm an advocate.

And, in May 2020, it was free. Not anymore.

WHY??
What would be the application here?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17809 on: April 04, 2022, 03:39:55 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on April 04, 2022, 02:40:57 PM
What would be the application here?
You mean today?


It would be nice for people to get tested for immunity rather than submit to un-needed boosters, for one.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17810 on: April 04, 2022, 04:12:19 PM »
but, the boosters ARE needed

don't you watch the news?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17811 on: April 04, 2022, 05:03:56 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 04, 2022, 03:39:55 PM
You mean today?


It would be nice for people to get tested for immunity rather than submit to un-needed boosters, for one.
Ahh. I wasn’t/am not sure of the post vaccine mechanics of that. Ie, would antibodies dissipate in a way those old tests show?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17812 on: April 04, 2022, 05:25:08 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 04, 2022, 04:12:19 PM
but, the boosters ARE needed

don't you watch the news?
They are available, whether they are needed is probably situational.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17813 on: April 04, 2022, 05:27:51 PM »
Using Antibody Tests for COVID-19 | CDC

This is the CDC, so you can take it for what it's worth.  I tried to read up on them a while back and at that time, my view was they were worse than useless, too often giving false pos/neg.  Hopefully they have improved.


  • Tests with FDA Emergency Use Authorization have varying degrees of accuracy. Information about serological test performance characteristics are displayed in this Independent Evaluation of SARS-CoV-2 Antibody Test Performance.

    • A false positive result is when the test result is positive for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, even though those specific antibodies are not actually present.
    • A false negative result is when the test result is negative for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, even though those specific antibodies are actually present.

      • False positive results can be minimized by choosing an antibody test with high specificity and by testing people who are likely to have had COVID-19 or are known to have been vaccinated.
    • The Interim Guidance for COVID-19 Antibody Testing in Clinical and Public Health Settings provides detailed information on how to make the best use of antibody tests.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17814 on: April 05, 2022, 06:29:15 AM »
Perhaps the CDC should pour a little more gas on the effort to develop antibody testing.

But, certain companies would not like that, right?

Boost away.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17815 on: April 05, 2022, 08:08:26 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17816 on: April 06, 2022, 08:40:34 AM »
This is from the NYT today:


To many people’s surprise — including mine — new Covid-19 cases in the U.S. have not begun to rise. Over the past two weeks, they have held roughly steady, falling about 1 percent, even as the highly contagious BA.2 subvariant of Omicron has become the dominant form of Covid in the U.S.

Across much of Europe, by contrast, cases surged last month after BA.2 began spreading there, and many experts expected a similar pattern here. That hasn’t happened. “It has not taken off,” Michael Osterholm, a University of Minnesota epidemiologist, told me.
Chart shows 7-day averages as of April 4. | Sources: New York Times database; Johns Hopkins University
What’s going on? Today’s newsletter looks at four possible explanations.
1. More immunity
Even though the U.S. has a lower vaccination rate than Western Europe, this country may still have built up more immunity — thanks to our politically polarized response to the virus.
In liberal parts of the U.S., vaccination rates can be even higher than in Europe. In conservative communities, many Americans have been so dismissive of Covid that they have long been living almost normally. As a result, the virus has already swept through these communities, conferring at least some immunity on many people.
This laissez-faire approach has had horrible downsides. Covid death rates have been much higher in counties that voted for Donald Trump than those that voted for Joe Biden. But for people who survived a prior Covid infection, it does confer some immune protection, especially if it was recent.
“Most of Europe has been pretty Covid averse,” William Hanage, a Harvard epidemiologist, said on a recent episode of the “In the Bubble” podcast, “whereas parts of the United States have been quite Covid curious.” Hanage said that he still expected U.S. caseloads to rise soon. But, he added, “I don’t think it’s going to be as dramatic as Europe.”
If that’s correct, a preview is already visible in the Northeast, where cases have been rising lately, but not as steeply as in Europe.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17817 on: April 06, 2022, 08:41:33 AM »

Throughout the pandemic, Osterholm — the Minnesota epidemiologist — has lamented that many scientists, journalists and laypeople exaggerate how much we actually know about Covid. His favorite example: The Alpha variant swept through Michigan and Minnesota last year and then largely died out, without causing case increases in other parts of the U.S. Another example: BA.2 has recently become the dominant variant in India, South Africa and some other countries without causing a spike in cases.

When I called Osterholm yesterday to ask why cases had not surged over the past few weeks, he simply said: “I don’t know, and I don’t think anybody really knows.”
Of all the variants, only the original Omicron was so contagious that it spread around the world in predictable ways, he said. Other versions of the virus have surged and receded in mysterious ways, much as a forest fire can die out without burning down an entire forest.
The bottom line: Cases still seem likely to rise, perhaps significantly, in the U.S. soon. But a new wave looks less certain than it did a few weeks ago. Regardless, the steps that can save lives in coming months remain the same: more vaccine shots, including boosters; and greater awareness of available treatments that offer extra protection for the vulnerable.
More on the virus:


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17818 on: April 06, 2022, 08:42:12 AM »
If the benefit of a fourth shot is "modest", I think I'll wait until they have an Omicron specific vaccine, if that, depending on how this goes.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17819 on: April 06, 2022, 08:56:31 AM »
The benefit might be more than modest in older cohorts.  And less than modest in younger groups.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17820 on: April 06, 2022, 09:06:36 AM »
My current plan is to wait.  I'm in good health, the rate of spread here is still modest, a better vaccine might come along in 6 months.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17821 on: April 06, 2022, 09:54:50 AM »
my plan as well
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