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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17780 on: March 26, 2022, 11:15:59 AM »
I got my last shot at a CVS.  You don't need some top notch medical facility to get a shot.

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« Reply #17781 on: March 26, 2022, 11:36:01 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17783 on: March 29, 2022, 11:33:21 AM »
FDA authorizes fourth Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccine doses for people age 50 and older (cnbc.com)


I thought the vacs had not protection against omicron so why would anyone get another shot until they offer a vac against the current virus out there
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17784 on: March 29, 2022, 11:39:34 AM »
They offer some protection against Omicron, it's less effective and tends to diminish with time.  There is discussion about the core purpose of vaccines, which is good.  Are they to prevent the disease or just cause it to be much milder?  Or both?  I sense it is shifting to making the disease less dangerous.

Israeli scientists, in a study published last week, found the death rate from omicron was 78% lower in senior citizens 60- to 100-years-old who received a fourth Pfizer dose compared with those who received just three shots. The study, which has not undergone peer review, examined the medical records of more than 500,000 people from January through February at Clalit Health Services, Israel’s largest health-care provider.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17785 on: March 29, 2022, 11:46:19 AM »
omicron already is less dangerous 

unless another strain comes along this is over
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17786 on: March 29, 2022, 11:54:10 AM »
I hope so, it's still making people sick in pretty substantial numbers.

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« Reply #17787 on: March 29, 2022, 12:22:42 PM »
I hope so, it's still making people sick in pretty substantial numbers.
so are you gonna get boosters every 6 months for the rest of your life

I doubt it until another strain shows itself herd immunity has kicked in 

Im not sure this will even be seasonal

what folks ought to do is get an antibody test to see if a 4th booster would actually help them
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« Reply #17788 on: March 29, 2022, 12:36:45 PM »
I run into a thing often, someone posts a citation, and someone else disparages it simply because it's from Fox News, or NPR, or heaven forbid MSNBC.  The article MAY be entirely accurate of course, but it's discounted because of the source, not because the article is not factual.
Questionable news sources like Fox, or CNN, or MSNBC, or NPR, have created this problem for themselves.  By consistently reporting only certain things that are obviously slanted to their agenda, they call into question all of their reporting.

If I know that Fox or CNN only report things that support their agenda and world view, then I'm more likely to question why they're choosing to report it at all, and I'm more likely to dismiss it.

It doesn't mean I dismiss everything they report, but it does mean I question their reason for reporting it, and I am ever suspicious of their motives for reporting a particular item.

They've earned this treatment after pursuing decades of editorial agenda-driven propaganda.

I'm similarly suspicious of things I see reported from Al Jazeera and Russian state media.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17789 on: March 29, 2022, 12:41:34 PM »
We usually can spot hard news, and then spin.  One can filter it out I think with relative ease, with some exceptions.  If your primary news source ignores a news item, of course you're SOL.

There was a recent story that Mueller had apparently said something that could confirm the Clinton campaign was in on the Trump - Russia thing.  The spin cycle on that was epic, it took 2-3 days for it to even get mentioned in some outlets, and then it was discussed with considerable spin.  Now, it's also true that the Trump Network was also spinning the story.  The actual hard quote from the Mueller thing was pretty vague, in my view.  But one can look at the actual verbatim from some source of said information and see if the spin is at all correct.

The story didn't have legs, perhaps because of Ukraine, I suppose in time it either will disappear into nothingness or get resurrected in some more tangible form.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17790 on: March 29, 2022, 12:43:12 PM »
so are you gonna get boosters every 6 months for the rest of your life
I don't know, probably not every six months, maybe annually.  This is optional at this point, I'd rather have the personal option to choose another shot, or not.

I'm still trying to look into the data as it is reported and think about what I want from this.  I don't think I'll get shot 4 any time soon, maybe in 2-3-4 months.

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« Reply #17791 on: March 29, 2022, 01:00:38 PM »
I don't know, probably not every six months, maybe annually.  This is optional at this point, I'd rather have the personal option to choose another shot, or not.

I'm still trying to look into the data as it is reported and think about what I want from this.  I don't think I'll get shot 4 any time soon, maybe in 2-3-4 months.

My 14yo was eligible for her 3rd shot in early March.  I asked her doctor about it, and she said that she'd advise holding off, as Omicron was diminishing rapidly at that point.  She said to keep our eyes on the news and if the numbers start increasing again, then it would make sense to come in for her booster at that point.  Given the relative risk for children, I find that to be a reasonable approach.

For adults in high risk categories either by age or comorbidities, other approaches would be reasonable.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17792 on: March 29, 2022, 01:03:33 PM »
I wouldn't want to get the current booster now and have an Omicron specific vaccine available in 2-3-4 months.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17793 on: March 30, 2022, 08:04:54 AM »
Omicron is gonna be gone in 4 months.
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