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Mdot21 · « **Reply #17766 on:** March 25, 2022, 09:08:02 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 25, 2022, 09:37:28 AM

Needs to be defunded.

it's literal garbage.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #17767 on:** March 25, 2022, 09:08:44 PM »

this guy makes incredible videos straight up clowning media....this one on coronavirus is terrific...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-X-Lgrlf0

Mdot21 · « **Reply #17768 on:** March 25, 2022, 09:23:29 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on March 25, 2022, 06:30:17 AM

How anti-vaccine activists and the GOP are growing closer : NPR

This is a bit weird, more than a bit, to me. I understand that "one percent" of the population is inherently going to have extreme views on various and sundry.

it's a bit weird because the article is pure unadulterated propaganda bullshit from NPR just like 99.9% of the trash they shit out of their disgusting asses.

there's a massive difference and distinction between being anti-mandate and anti-vaccine.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #17769 on:** March 26, 2022, 07:59:05 AM »

I found the article interesting, and balanced.

The conference was clearly of the antivaxx ilk, not anti-mandate. I wouldn't attend obviously, it's kooky stuff, homeopathic crap and whatnot. It's understandable how some antigovernment types (now that Trump is out) would be attracted to such things. Basically, it's a group of folks united in varied beliefs of conspiracies and "they" who are against us, working secretly to embed chips in us, or create world government, or let the UN take our guns, or set up Walmarts as reeducation camps for Trump supporters, or whatever else of similar ilk. They adopted Trump as Their Guy and don't want this vaccine because, well, because Trump got it all rolling?

I am all astonishment, literally.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #17770 on:** March 26, 2022, 09:52:30 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on March 26, 2022, 07:59:05 AM

I found the article interesting, and balanced.

The conference was clearly of the antivaxx ilk, not anti-mandate. I wouldn't attend obviously, it's kooky stuff, homeopathic crap and whatnot. It's understandable how some antigovernment types (now that Trump is out) would be attracted to such things. Basically, it's a group of folks united in varied beliefs of conspiracies and "they" who are against us, working secretly to embed chips in us, or create world government, or let the UN take our guns, or set up Walmarts as reeducation camps for Trump supporters, or whatever else of similar ilk. They adopted Trump as Their Guy and don't want this vaccine because, well, because Trump got it all rolling?

I am all astonishment, literally.

so you didnt give a source

any reason

Cincydawg · « **Reply #17771 on:** March 26, 2022, 09:59:53 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on March 25, 2022, 06:30:17 AM

How anti-vaccine activists and the GOP are growing closer : NPR

This is a bit weird, more than a bit, to me. I understand that "one percent" of the population is inherently going to have extreme views on various and sundry.

Previously posted.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #17772 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:00:58 AM »

I run into a thing often, someone posts a citation, and someone else disparages it simply because it's from Fox News, or NPR, or heaven forbid MSNBC. The article MAY be entirely accurate of course, but it's discounted because of the source, not because the article is not factual.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #17773 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:03:36 AM »

Better sources are best.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #17774 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:09:04 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on March 26, 2022, 09:59:53 AM

Previously posted.

ok the NPR thing

looks like just a hit piece to me

Its real simple Americans dont like the Federal Government telling them what they have to do

Getting vaxed is not in itself a bad thing unless the choice is taken away from the individual

This plus the fact the CDC hides information from the public in an agenda driven way

To try to divide this between Trump supporters and non Trump supporters is crap

847badgerfan · « **Reply #17775 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:13:31 AM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on March 26, 2022, 10:09:04 AM

ok the NPR thing

looks like just a hit piece to me

Its real simple Americans dont like the Federal Government telling them what they have to do

Getting vaxed is not in itself a bad thing unless the choice is taken away from the individual

This plus the fact the CDC hides information from the public in an agenda driven way

To try to divide this between Trump supporters and non Trump supporters is crap

That's the problem with this. In truth, it is about 50-50 R-D who are anti-vax. The anti-mandate is more like 80-20 R-D.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #17776 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:14:48 AM »

Whatever it looks like to others, I found it useful and interesting. There is pretty solid data showing higher death rates in counties that voted for Trump vs those who voted for Biden, a solid correlation, of course, the data could be falsified somehow.

I personally find most of the folks who don't want anything to do with the COVID vaccine are also Trump supporters. There is a fringe on the left that is pretty much antivax everything. It's rare in my experience to find anyone politically near the middle who has not gotten the vaccine. That's anecdotal rather than statistical of course.

I find it fascinating really.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #17777 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:18:27 AM »

Coronavirus Vaccines Highlight a Deadly Political Divide | The Report | US News

I see analysis after analysis showing this divide, I believe it is very real.

And to the extent that is already happening, it's happening along party lines, as the new wave of the pandemic becomes a [color=var(--blue-50)]crisis of the unvaccinated[/iurl]. The [color=var(--blue-50)]nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation[/color] found that 75% of Democrats have already been vaccinated; just 41% of Republicans said the same. Blue states are more likely to have tighter mask or vaccines rules; colleges that require vaccination, for example, are more likely to be located in states President Joe Biden won last November, KFF reports.[/font][/font][/size][/color]
Vaccinations have increased faster, too, in counties that voted for Biden compared to those that voted for former President Donald Trump, the health policy research group reported. As of April 22, the average vaccination rate in Trump counties was 20.6%, only slightly less than the 22.8% vaccination rate in Biden counties.

"If you're walking around with a mask on, people will assume you're a Democrat."

By July 6, the gap had widened, with the average vaccination rate in Trump counties at 35%, with the rate in Biden counties at 46.7%, [color=var(--blue-50)]the group found[/iurl].[/font][/font][/size][/color]

longhorn320 · « **Reply #17778 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:20:23 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on March 26, 2022, 10:14:48 AM

Whatever it looks like to others, I found it useful and interesting. There is pretty solid data showing higher death rates in counties that voted for Trump vs those who voted for Biden, a solid correlation, of course, the data could be falsified somehow.

I personally find most of the folks who don't want anything to do with the COVID vaccine are also Trump supporters. There is a fringe on the left that is pretty much antivax everything. It's rare in my experience to find anyone politically near the middle who has not gotten the vaccine. That's anecdotal rather than statistical of course.

I find it fascinating really.

Using that logic you could go back to the beginning of the pandemic and note that the vast majority of deaths happened in minority areas in large cities and come to a conclusion that we are treating folks in a racist way.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #17779 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:23:07 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on March 26, 2022, 10:14:48 AM

Whatever it looks like to others, I found it useful and interesting. There is pretty solid data showing higher death rates in counties that voted for Trump vs those who voted for Biden, a solid correlation, of course, the data could be falsified somehow.

I personally find most of the folks who don't want anything to do with the COVID vaccine are also Trump supporters. There is a fringe on the left that is pretty much antivax everything. It's rare in my experience to find anyone politically near the middle who has not gotten the vaccine. That's anecdotal rather than statistical of course.

I find it fascinating really.

There are a LOT more rural counties that are red than blue, and rural counties generally lack the top healthcare facilities available in urban areas.

Makes sense. An example:

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