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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17402 on: February 16, 2022, 10:35:17 AM »
So, Omicron is abating, great, but how soon will another variant hit?  O-micron is small, O-mega is large.
IMHO this is the end of the pandemic. Between vaccine coverage, massive Omicron case numbers (went from 50M to 80M confirmed cases in this wave), significant asymptomatic or untested case numbers, we're done. 

Where this thing kept going after the vaccines was due to Delta mutating to be significantly easier to spread than the original and Alpha variants, and then Omicron came on and overwhelmed all vaccine-derived or natural immunity because it was significantly easier to spread than Delta. I've seen estimates that the original and Alpha had R0 around 2-3, Delta was 5-7, and Omicron 10 or higher. 

Omicron became super-transmissible by the same process which made it mild--residing in the upper airways rather than deep in the lungs. I don't see how another variant would suddenly become MORE transmissible than that. 

This thing fades from here. That's my prediction, and as you all know, I've been right about everything so far :72:

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17403 on: February 16, 2022, 10:55:05 AM »
Weekly U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report | CDC

Flu season has been low, once again.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17404 on: February 16, 2022, 10:56:53 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17405 on: February 16, 2022, 11:07:03 AM »
IMHO this is the end of the pandemic. Between vaccine coverage, massive Omicron case numbers (went from 50M to 80M confirmed cases in this wave), significant asymptomatic or untested case numbers, we're done.

Where this thing kept going after the vaccines was due to Delta mutating to be significantly easier to spread than the original and Alpha variants, and then Omicron came on and overwhelmed all vaccine-derived or natural immunity because it was significantly easier to spread than Delta. I've seen estimates that the original and Alpha had R0 around 2-3, Delta was 5-7, and Omicron 10 or higher.

Omicron became super-transmissible by the same process which made it mild--residing in the upper airways rather than deep in the lungs. I don't see how another variant would suddenly become MORE transmissible than that.

This thing fades from here. That's my prediction, and as you all know, I've been right about everything so far :72:
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17406 on: February 16, 2022, 11:53:33 AM »
You gonna let that defiance just stand, Bwar???

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17407 on: February 16, 2022, 12:27:27 PM »
You gonna let that defiance just stand, Bwar???

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17408 on: February 16, 2022, 12:30:00 PM »
Not really.
You gonna let that defiance just stand, Bwar???

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Well, clearly that assertion that I'm always right was meant to be tongue in cheek...

I'd venture if someone combed through all 1244 pages of this thread, however, my "rightness of prediction" number would be quite high.

What's funny about it is that so many of my predictions have been the wet blanket on all the Pollyanna assertions from so many in this thread, and the wet blanket position has been pretty damn accurate. Now that I'm turning Pollyanna, people are complaining? :smiley_confused1:

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17409 on: February 16, 2022, 12:36:21 PM »
I'm not sure you've been that much of a wet blanket.

We've had at least one COVID Warrior on this thread the entire time-- a true COVIDIAN as the internet might now name the affliction.  THAT is the wet blanket viewpoint.

Between the two extremes-- the COVIDIOTS and the COVIDIANS-- is where at least a few of us have made our residence over the past couple of years.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17410 on: February 16, 2022, 01:15:49 PM »
The latest US Stats




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17411 on: February 16, 2022, 01:26:54 PM »
The latest US Stats





Yep.

Interestingly my prediction of peak daily deaths (measured by 7-day MA) during Omicron would be in the 2600-2800 range. For a while, it was looking like it would come in below that. However, we've discussed that sometimes the data can lag in Worldometers and have to be backfilled based on date of death as later reports come in, those numbers have risen...

Current peak of the 7-day MA is now sitting at 2643... So... I was right, as usual

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17412 on: February 16, 2022, 01:53:10 PM »
there should be no mask mandates for anyone everywhere in the US

but some school boards just cant give up the power
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17413 on: February 16, 2022, 02:05:26 PM »
We're done with mask mandates in schools in my part of town, they ended sometime before Christmas.

My 14yo daughter voluntarily still wears one all day at school, except in band class.

My 12yo son abandoned the mask after he caught COVID anyway.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17414 on: February 16, 2022, 02:49:54 PM »
I'm not sure you've been that much of a wet blanket.

We've had at least one COVID Warrior on this thread the entire time-- a true COVIDIAN as the internet might now name the affliction.  THAT is the wet blanket viewpoint.

Between the two extremes-- the COVIDIOTS and the COVIDIANS-- is where at least a few of us have made our residence over the past couple of years.


I heard if Branch Covidians or something like that.   Another Texas thing. 🥴
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17415 on: February 16, 2022, 06:50:19 PM »
Texans are weird and dangerous people.  Folks should definitely not move here.

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