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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17360 on: February 09, 2022, 10:08:59 AM »
Yup. And satellite surveillance of unusually high levels of activity around Chinese hospitals as early as November 2019.

But I was just citing the things I actually know and have experienced directly.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17361 on: February 09, 2022, 10:55:53 AM »
China's aggressive measures have slowed the coronavirus. They may not work in other countries | Science | AAAS
China's aggressive measures have slowed the coronavirus. They may not work in other countries | Science | AAAS

China's coronavirus lockdown strategy: brutal but effective | Coronavirus | The Guardian
China's coronavirus lockdown strategy: brutal but effective | Coronavirus | The Guardian

The Impact of China's Lockdown Policy on the Incidence of COVID-19: An Interrupted Time Series Analysis (nih.gov)
The Impact of China's Lockdown Policy on the Incidence of COVID-19: An Interrupted Time Series Analysis (nih.gov)

There was a significant decrease the COVID-19 daily cases reported in China following the institution of a lockdown, and therefore, lockdown may be used to curtail the burden of COVID-19.


It's logical that a near total lockdown will reduce spread.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17362 on: February 09, 2022, 10:59:00 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 10:55:53 AM
China's aggressive measures have slowed the coronavirus. They may not work in other countries | Science | AAAS
China's aggressive measures have slowed the coronavirus. They may not work in other countries | Science | AAAS

China's coronavirus lockdown strategy: brutal but effective | Coronavirus | The Guardian
China's coronavirus lockdown strategy: brutal but effective | Coronavirus | The Guardian

The Impact of China's Lockdown Policy on the Incidence of COVID-19: An Interrupted Time Series Analysis (nih.gov)
The Impact of China's Lockdown Policy on the Incidence of COVID-19: An Interrupted Time Series Analysis (nih.gov)

There was a significant decrease the COVID-19 daily cases reported in China following the institution of a lockdown, and therefore, lockdown may be used to curtail the burden of COVID-19.


It's logical that a near total lockdown will reduce spread.

It is logical.  It would be interesting to see actual real, legitimate data on such a policy.

Citing anything released by the CCP doesn't represent real, legitimate data, so we're left with nothing but speculation.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17363 on: February 09, 2022, 11:02:29 AM »
Forget China, any real draconian lock down would reduce spread.  Maybe half measures might reduce it some as well, I'd believe that, but area under the curve.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17364 on: February 09, 2022, 11:04:23 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 11:02:29 AM
Forget China, any real draconian lock down would reduce spread.  Maybe half measures might reduce it some as well, I'd believe that, but area under the curve.


The point is that any real draconion lockdown is so impossible to achieve that not even China could manage it, despite their lies to the contrary.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17365 on: February 09, 2022, 11:06:16 AM »
My point is that any lockdown is likely to inhibit rates of contagion, to the extent it is a lockdown.  I can't see the alternative as being plausible.  A loose lockdown would have a modest impact.
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« Reply #17366 on: February 09, 2022, 11:18:11 AM »
Sure theoretically it would work.  
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« Reply #17367 on: February 09, 2022, 11:28:03 AM »
In unrelated news, cases peaked here in Texico around 1/17, and it appears deaths MAY have peaked around 2/4, although the data are still noisy enough it's tough to draw a firm conclusion yet.

But if so, then the overall peak death rate was lower than all previous spikes in absolute terms, and the peak rate as % of cases was many times lower, than previous spikes.  Obviously that's great news.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17368 on: February 09, 2022, 11:40:14 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on February 09, 2022, 11:18:11 AM
Sure theoretically it would work. 
It would work, in proportion to how severe the lockdown is, at least short term.  At some point you have to unlock things to some extent.  I'd do it IFF a situation were so dire and serious that hospitals couldn't cope and we needed to spread it out.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17369 on: February 14, 2022, 09:49:10 AM »


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17370 on: February 14, 2022, 10:05:51 AM »
Deaths in Texas still haven't started dropping. Seemed like they were a few days ago, but apparently not just yet.  The peak cases were on 1/17 and dropped off quickly so we're now 4 weeks past, I would expect the deaths to begin dropping steadily as well.





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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17371 on: February 14, 2022, 10:35:51 AM »
Perhaps folks in critical condition are surviving longer now with treatment, but still don't make it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17372 on: February 14, 2022, 10:55:57 AM »
might also be some cases of dying with covid not dying because of covid
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17373 on: February 14, 2022, 11:11:59 AM »
I doubt anyone dies directly of COVID, it is possible though, I think nearly all die of pneumonia or related disease enabled by a COVID infection.
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