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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17248 on: January 29, 2022, 08:16:47 AM »
Florida is pretty open, it's very different from Hawaii where you need "permission" just to get in the state.  I'd say Georgia is somewhat open, some places require masks and some restaurants are take out only, still, and some request masks.

France is in various versions of a shut down for the unvaxxed.  Their case numbers are MUCH higher than anything previously, their deaths have gone up some but have not reached where they were earlier for obvious reasons.

I sense many of us realize all these measures might delay the inevitable a bit but won't stop it, it's endemic now.  We're still planning for the Baltic Cruise in May and I might do another US trip in between, maybe to Vegas, we like the areas near Vegas, not the city itself that much.

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« Reply #17249 on: January 29, 2022, 08:24:55 AM »


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17250 on: January 29, 2022, 09:36:14 AM »


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17251 on: January 29, 2022, 10:04:00 AM »
Florida is pretty open, it's very different from Hawaii where you need "permission" just to get in the state.  I'd say Georgia is somewhat open, some places require masks and some restaurants are take out only, still, and some request masks.

France is in various versions of a shut down for the unvaxxed.  Their case numbers are MUCH higher than anything previously, their deaths have gone up some but have not reached where they were earlier for obvious reasons.

I sense many of us realize all these measures might delay the inevitable a bit but won't stop it, it's endemic now.  We're still planning for the Baltic Cruise in May and I might do another US trip in between, maybe to Vegas, we like the areas near Vegas, not the city itself that much.

We postponed our summer Euro trip-- again.  There's just no way to know how the governments of those countries will react when the next wave, or the wave after that, hits them.  And I don't want to bother spending all the time and money to get there, to find that the restaurants and attraction we'd hoped to visit, are closed or otherwise compromised.

So we'll do a beach vacation in Mexico instead. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17252 on: January 29, 2022, 10:32:51 AM »
Florida is pretty open, it's very different from Hawaii where you need "permission" just to get in the state.  I'd say Georgia is somewhat open, some places require masks and some restaurants are take out only, still, and some request masks.

France is in various versions of a shut down for the unvaxxed.  Their case numbers are MUCH higher than anything previously, their deaths have gone up some but have not reached where they were earlier for obvious reasons.

I sense many of us realize all these measures might delay the inevitable a bit but won't stop it, it's endemic now.  We're still planning for the Baltic Cruise in May and I might do another US trip in between, maybe to Vegas, we like the areas near Vegas, not the city itself that much.
It's interesting being in town on the border of a couple states. 

Everything is functionally open everywhere. In one state, because of a "mask mandate" in the specific city, a majority of people wear masks, but people don't generally care. In the other, where I used to live and which has been less strict, I walk into a restaurant with a mask and almost no other customer has one. And then I shrug and take my seat because I tend to be a live and let live guy. It's always an intersting transition. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17253 on: January 29, 2022, 10:47:09 AM »
It's interesting being in town on the border of a couple states.

Everything is functionally open everywhere. In one state, because of a "mask mandate" in the specific city, a majority of people wear masks, but people don't generally care. In the other, where I used to live and which has been less strict, I walk into a restaurant with a mask and almost no other customer has one. And then I shrug and take my seat because I tend to be a live and let live guy. It's always an intersting transition.

going from tyranny to freedom can be very interesting
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17254 on: January 29, 2022, 10:52:00 AM »
Just got my 2nd COVID shot 1/2 hr ago, Evidently wait 5 months for the booster
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« Reply #17255 on: January 29, 2022, 11:04:12 AM »
How were you feeling from the first one? Which brand did you go for?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17256 on: January 29, 2022, 11:15:02 AM »
Finally found a place nearby that can deliver the booster, I'll be doing that Tuesday morning.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17257 on: January 30, 2022, 11:37:03 AM »
How mRNA and DNA vaccines could soon treat cancers, HIV, autoimmune disorders and genetic diseases (theconversation.com)

T cell responses are very important for identifying cells infected with chronic diseases and aberrant cancer cells. They also play a big role in eliminating these cells from the body.
When a cell becomes cancerous, it starts producing neoantigens. In normal cases, the immune system detects these neoantigens, recognizes that something’s wrong with the cell and eliminates it. The reason some people get tumors is that their immune system isn’t quite capable of eliminating the tumor cells, so the cells propagate.
With an mRNA or DNA vaccine, the goal is to make your body better able to recognize the very specific neoantigens the cancer cell has produced. If your immune system can recognize and see those better, it will attack the cancer cells and eliminate them from the body.
This same strategy can be applied to the elimination of chronic infections like HIV, hepatitis B and herpes. These viruses infect the human body and stay in the body forever unless the immune system eliminates them. Similar to the way nucleic acid vaccines can train the immune system to eliminate cancer cells, they can be used to train our immune cells to recognize and eliminate chronically infected cells.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17258 on: January 30, 2022, 11:56:20 AM »
How were you feeling from the first one? Which brand did you go for?
Sorry just seeing this went with Pfizer,no problems except a sore arm developed later on at nite.Wasn't going to get one at all as I never had the the Flu except for once. However on the employment front most asking for proof or demanding vaccination. Have been fairly mobile after the original 2 months back in 2020 so perhaps immune or asymptomatic
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17259 on: January 31, 2022, 06:47:39 AM »
What the Joe Rogan podcast controversy says about the online misinformation ecosystem : NPR

An interesting dilemma I think, but people are so prone to confirmation bias, they will get bad info from somewhere else if not here.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17260 on: January 31, 2022, 07:17:01 AM »
What the Joe Rogan podcast controversy says about the online misinformation ecosystem : NPR

An interesting dilemma I think, but people are so prone to confirmation bias, they will get bad info from somewhere else if not here.
You could have just titled this:

online misinformation ecosystem NPR

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17261 on: January 31, 2022, 10:18:57 AM »
In several nations Excessive Death counts are indicating death numbers beyond those attributable to COVID.

Russia’s population drop of 700K last year amounts to more than their Covid losses. Going back over a decade before the pandemic began, Russia’s mortality rates were already too high. Got to believe that a century of tyranny, corruption, and economic depression resulting in famines, prison camps, severe alcohol abuse, and a lack of religious vision has long since broken the collective spirit of Russia, IMO.

As for the UK, their surprising decrease in life longevity (and rise in mortality) started decreasing before the pandemic as well, where Covid is certainly the main driver behind the UK’s current spike in excess deaths. But last year the UK’s excess deaths were not fully explained by Covid.

In the larger picture, IMO, costs and poverty and homelessness are rising across the first world without short-term political solution, and healthcare cannot keep up with our collectively poorer health from worsening diets, more polluted living environments, and especially rising drug abuse. It’s all adding up to Covid pushing it all beyond the breaking point.


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