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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17038 on: January 12, 2022, 09:58:54 AM »
Been a long-ass time since I've had chapped lips. It's to the point that they are bleeding.

Nothing helps.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17040 on: January 12, 2022, 09:59:53 AM »
I did not find air travel to be that bad the last four trips I took.  ATL was really crowded though relative to "normal".  I just paid for our Baltic cruise in May, so I guess we're going for real.  I hope it's in a "window".
Cancelled my Northern European Cruise for May.  Not going to get over there and find places are closed, travel everywhere with a mask, etc. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17041 on: January 12, 2022, 10:00:57 AM »
Been a long-ass time since I've had chapped lips. It's to the point that they are bleeding.

Nothing helps.
A few days in the cold, dry mountain air in New Mexico tore my lips up.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17042 on: January 12, 2022, 10:01:06 AM »
Highlights

  • The SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant harbors 34 mutations in the spike, more than other variants

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  • Three mRNA vaccine doses elicit potent variant cross-neutralization, including Omicron

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17043 on: January 12, 2022, 10:01:50 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17044 on: January 12, 2022, 10:02:30 AM »
We're eight months into this pandemic, and Donald Trump still doesn't have a plan to get this virus under control.

I do.


— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) October 16, 2020
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17045 on: January 12, 2022, 10:03:08 AM »
President Biden and the White House Covid-19 task force said during a conference call with the National Governors Association that states would have to "solve" the pandemic "at the state level."

"Look, there is no federal solution. This gets solved at the state level," he said. "And then ultimately gets down to where the rubber meets the road, and that's where the patient is in need of help or preventing the need for help."

"If you need something, say something," the president told governors on the call Monday.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17046 on: January 12, 2022, 10:04:09 AM »
President Biden and the White House Covid-19 task force said during a conference call with the National Governors Association that states would have to "solve" the pandemic "at the state level."

"Look, there is no federal solution. This gets solved at the state level," he said. "And then ultimately gets down to where the rubber meets the road, and that's where the patient is in need of help or preventing the need for help."

"If you need something, say something," the president told governors on the call Monday.



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I wonder where he got THAT idea.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17047 on: January 12, 2022, 10:05:54 AM »
Cancelled my Northern European Cruise for May.  Not going to get over there and find places are closed, travel everywhere with a mask, etc.
I cancelled last year, I decided we'd go this year no matter what (almost).  My wife agrees, we have to go on with our lives.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17048 on: January 12, 2022, 10:10:00 AM »
Can't even be approached at the state level.  This is a municipal issue if ever there was one.  Local treatment of local cases, local changes to public health policy as needed, when the stress on local healthcare resources requires it.

I've said before that it's really good we got this trial run on how to handle a pandemic, with only a mildly lethal disease like COVID19. We're really lucky we didn't get hit by something as transmissible as COVID and as lethal as Ebola, for example.

But we'd have to be willing to apply lessons learned and adopt best practices in order to manage the next one better.  And I don't have much faith that we're capable of that.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17049 on: January 12, 2022, 10:15:31 AM »
I just realized that this was from December 2020. Now I get it. :)

   


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17050 on: January 12, 2022, 10:24:18 AM »
Can't even be approached at the state level.  This is a municipal issue if ever there was one.  Local treatment of local cases, local changes to public health policy as needed, when the stress on local healthcare resources requires it.

I've said before that it's really good we got this trial run on how to handle a pandemic, with only a mildly lethal disease like COVID19. We're really lucky we didn't get hit by something as transmissible as COVID and as lethal as Ebola, for example.

But we'd have to be willing to apply lessons learned and adopt best practices in order to manage the next one better.  And I don't have much faith that we're capable of that.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #17051 on: January 12, 2022, 10:38:06 AM »
But we'd have to be willing to apply lessons learned and adopt best practices in order to manage the next one better.  And I don't have much faith that we're capable of that.
As long as our strain of anti-authority, confirmation-bias seeking obstinance on both sides continues, I don't really have much faith either. 

For better or worse, management relies on a level of blind belief (which we eschew), and a level of complying, which we mostly won't do. In some cases that's good. In this one, it's not the most damaging. With something more lethal, it will be, and we'll just take it until the damage is something that REALLY scares us. And that'll be some damage. 

(This is not to say that anti-authority stances are bad, but they do get in the way of any attempt of coordinated government management)

 

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