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Deny hospital access to anti-vaxxers, and let the rational population go about their normal lives.  If they are going to deny medicine, make them commit to the bit.

I find myself of several minds on this. 

I can understand the angst of medical personal. It must be very frustrating for a person who refuses your advice to suddenly consume your time and resources because they now suddenly trust you. Extra points if a patient comes in with ideas about their treatment. 

And at least the way the discussion often go, that particular group has seemed to offer little quarter or understanding tone. Were the shoe on the other foot, many would say the same thing.

But in the end, I can't escape the feeling that unless someone is actively being a problem people in distress deserve care and kindness, even if they might not give it. We live in a society quick to snark and anger, quick to generalize and dismiss for all sorts of reasons. It's good to extend this group a basically decency, in hopes that we all get better at extending each other some basic decency. I know, that's Pollyanna, but I can hope. 

I find myself of several minds on this.

I can understand the angst of medical personal. It must be very frustrating for a person who refuses your advice to suddenly consume your time and resources because they now suddenly trust you. Extra points if a patient comes in with ideas about their treatment.

And at least the way the discussion often go, that particular group has seemed to offer little quarter or understanding tone. Were the shoe on the other foot, many would say the same thing.

But in the end, I can't escape the feeling that unless someone is actively being a problem people in distress deserve care and kindness, even if they might not give it. We live in a society quick to snark and anger, quick to generalize and dismiss for all sorts of reasons. It's good to extend this group a basically decency, in hopes that we all get better at extending each other some basic decency. I know, that's Pollyanna, but I can hope.

We don't deny treatment to smokers and the morbidly obese and helmetless motorcycle riders.  Why would we deny treatment for this?

The response that "they're endangering others by allowing unchecked transmission" isn't good enough in 2022, over two years into this thing, and knowing how common breakthrough infections are becoming. 

From what I can tell, anyone seriously advocating the position of denying treatment to the unvaxed, is really just doing so for punitive reasons.  And that's not a conversation I'm going to bother having with anyone.

These aren't the same things.

Hmm, getting the fat people to change their diet and sedentary lifestyles vs getting a shot.

One is quick and easy and the other would take time and is basically a fiction.

There's a reason Bill Gates doesn't hide the nanobots in celery and stairmasters, friends.

Interesting thoughts on boosters from the WHO

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

That organization lost me with this:

Okay... So I guess your point is...

"Some people are doing some things and some people are doing other things but I'm gonna focus on the ones doing the things I don't like and yell at them."

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We don't deny treatment to smokers and the morbidly obese and helmetless motorcycle riders.  Why would we deny treatment for this?

The response that "they're endangering others by allowing unchecked transmission" isn't good enough in 2022, over two years into this thing, and knowing how common breakthrough infections are becoming. 

From what I can tell, anyone seriously advocating the position of denying treatment to the unvaxed, is really just doing so for punitive reasons.  And that's not a conversation I'm going to bother having with anyone.

Once again, I'm not saying to outright deny them coverage. But if there are finite resources, and we are denying treatment to others, who have taken the advice of the doctors, then I'm going to give them treatment, over people who ignored the advice of their doctors, the same doctors they now want to treat them

Once again, I'm not saying to outright deny them coverage. But if there are finite resources, and we are denying treatment to others, who have taken the advice of the doctors, then I'm going to give them treatment, over people who ignored the advice of their doctors, the same doctors they now want to treat them

Again you are painting with a wide brush,what about those have reactions?Deadly Reactions?What about the vaxed parading around not taking any precautions?If you still have relatives in Michigan and would like to stop by from your home in PA.(as it's on the way) I will introduce you to some one whose cousin died the day the shot was administered.There is a lot of gray area and the untruthful postions and views being pushed by so many is irksome.I trust science but not that pushed by certain circles when some experiences conflict with white washed cherry picked narratives

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