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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16520 on: December 03, 2021, 11:27:15 AM »
Right now we're really leery about what to do. Right now our trip to Italy is still on for the Christmas break, but we're trying to get everything sorted out for testing, entry requirements, etc. All of us are fully vaccinated, and three of us have been boosted.
Just go. It's not that bad. Jump through the hoops.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16521 on: December 03, 2021, 11:34:16 AM »
oh theres plenty more they could do believe me

I read one possibility of requiring proof of vax to cross state lines
It would be amusing to watch the Federal government attempt to impose such a restriction, and to watch states like Texas and Florida openly defy them.

But it'll never come to that.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16522 on: December 03, 2021, 11:36:22 AM »
oh theres plenty more they could do believe me

I read one possibility of requiring proof of vax to cross state lines
Yes- they said “ nothings off the table” including vaccine and booster required to even board a plane.  Even though I have all 3 shots-so I don’t care- that kind of crazy talk is coming from our highest level of government so it is very real. 

again- we will have many court battles over what level of authority the federal government has over individual rights. 

so you all in the “ don’t you worry so much - it’s just talk “ crowd…..that’s what y’all said about

gender neutral bathrooms
No bail for criminals
defunding law enforcement
not prosecuting criminals
pretty much open southern border
the list goes on and on. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16523 on: December 03, 2021, 11:40:36 AM »
Yes- they said “ nothings off the table” including vaccine and booster required to even board a plane.  Even though I have all 3 shots-so I don’t care- that kind of crazy talk is coming from our highest level of government so it is very real. 

again- we will have many court battles over what level of authority the federal government has over individual rights. 

so you all in the “ don’t you worry so much - it’s just talk “ crowd…..that’s what y’all said about

gender neutral bathrooms
No bail for criminals
defunding law enforcement
not prosecuting criminals
pretty much open southern border
the list goes on and on. 


I mean, you're listing hot button issues that a lot of people are fundamentally okay with, so you're not really making the point you think you are.  I recognize that YOU think all of those are bad, but plenty of people in this country don't.  They not only aren't "worried" about it, they are actively in favor.

Which means it's not some kind of slippery slope argument, it's a case of fundamental ideals.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16524 on: December 03, 2021, 12:07:29 PM »
I mean, you're listing hot button issues that a lot of people are fundamentally okay with, so you're not really making the point you think you are.  I recognize that YOU think all of those are bad, but plenty of people in this country don't.  They not only aren't "worried" about it, they are actively in favor.

Which means it's not some kind of slippery slope argument, it's a case of fundamental ideals.
I think he makes a very good point and thats why Im concerned about over stepping on Omicron
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16525 on: December 03, 2021, 12:12:13 PM »
I mean, you're listing hot button issues that a lot of people are fundamentally okay with, so you're not really making the point you think you are.  I recognize that YOU think all of those are bad, but plenty of people in this country don't.  They not only aren't "worried" about it, they are actively in favor.

Which means it's not some kind of slippery slope argument, it's a case of fundamental ideals.
Totally agree.  ( although “some being in favor” constitutes a small minority in many cases)

as you can see- I specifically picked issues that have been discussed in this very thread, and been written off to “ your afraid of the bogeyman “ or “ that will never come to pass” and yet they have.

And that was specifically to respond on the specific conversation about reaction to the new variant.  Seeing the “you shouldn’t worry- that won’t happen”  played again

overall- I tend to strongly agree with your post upthread where you opine about the regional approach seeming to be how these things have , and likely will continue to, play out.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16526 on: December 03, 2021, 12:13:31 PM »
I think he makes a very good point and thats why Im concerned about over stepping on Omicron
And people that are in favor of gender-neutral bathrooms, which is at least roughly half the country, don't think it's a good point at all.

Again, this isn't a slippery slope argument, it's a fundamental difference in ideals.

There are actually folks-- a LOT of folks in fact-- who believe the Federal government should have nearly unlimited power and should supersede state and municipal authority in almost every situation.

I don't happen to be one of those people, in fact I'm quite the opposite, but they are out there, and they have a very strong representation amongst the public.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16528 on: December 03, 2021, 12:16:17 PM »
And people that are in favor of gender-neutral bathrooms, which is at least roughly half the country, don't think it's a good point at all.

Again, this isn't a slippery slope argument, it's a fundamental difference in ideals.

There are actually folks-- a LOT of folks in fact-- who believe the Federal government should have nearly unlimited power and should supersede state and municipal authority in almost every situation.

I don't happen to be one of those people, in fact I'm quite the opposite, but they are out there, and they have a very strong representation amongst the public.
Again- totally agree. 
which is why if someone were to opine in this thread that “we should lock down the whole country and wear masks 100% of the time“ My reaction would be totally different if I even would have one. I would probably just disagree but not even post about it.

But what I was responding to was this notion that those things are far-fetched and can’t possibly happen, because we’ve seen those posts before and a lot of these things that were thought to be “far-fetched” are now in play in real life. That was really my only point
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16529 on: December 03, 2021, 12:16:51 PM »
And people that are in favor of gender-neutral bathrooms, which is at least roughly half the country, don't think it's a good point at all.

Again, this isn't a slippery slope argument, it's a fundamental difference in ideals.

There are actually folks-- a LOT of folks in fact-- who believe the Federal government should have nearly unlimited power and should supersede state and municipal authority in almost every situation.

I don't happen to be one of those people, in fact I'm quite the opposite, but they are out there, and they have a very strong representation amongst the public.
I agree there are people who favor these things but I feel strongly they are in the minority

I realize this can take a political turn and I dont want to go there

again I hope my concern is unfounded
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16530 on: December 03, 2021, 12:21:53 PM »
I agree there are people who favor these things but I feel strongly they are in the minority

I realize this can take a political turn and I dont want to go there

again I hope my concern is unfounded
You live Texas.  Lol.  It’s unfounded there for sure.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16531 on: December 03, 2021, 12:25:02 PM »
Again- totally agree. 
which is why if someone were to opine in this thread that “we should lock down the whole country and wear masks 100% of the time“ My reaction would be totally different if I even would have one. I would probably just disagree but not even post about it.

But what I was responding to was this notion that those things are far-fetched and can’t possibly happen, because we’ve seen those posts before and a lot of these things that were thought to be “far-fetched” are now in play in real life. That was really my only point
requiring vax cards to cross state lines is far-fetched and crazy talk for paranoid folks that need to calm down
my point
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16532 on: December 03, 2021, 12:29:41 PM »
requiring vax cards to cross state lines is far-fetched and crazy talk for paranoid folks that need to calm down
my point
I would feel differently if this new strain was deadly and not affected by the vaccine but so far that appears to not be the case
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16533 on: December 03, 2021, 12:29:51 PM »
requiring vax cards to cross state lines is far-fetched and crazy talk for paranoid folks that need to calm down
my point
Your probably right too. But it is talk that is occurring.  
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