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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16310 on: November 18, 2021, 01:53:35 PM »
The PC "fat can be healthy" thing started, as most things do, as a prudent point that a woman could be a size ___ and still look sexy.  The number in the blank wasn't 20+, though, it was more like a size 12 or a size 10. 
Skinny equalled hot and the point was that no, women who didn't resemble teenage boys were also sexy, and of course, they are.

But over time and with a bunch of other people rolling with it, we get this bastardized version of it where obese people are supposed to be healthy.  Of course we're not. 

The same thing happened with 'defund the police,' which was a call for a % of police funding to go towards specialists doing some of the jobs police officers have been saddled with and poorly prepared for for decades. It was a great idea.
But then it was bastardized by idiots and went off the rails.

Everything seems to get bastardized by the greedy and/or the idiots, which is why every major aspect of our society is mostly broken.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16311 on: November 18, 2021, 02:00:34 PM »
Social media seems good at bringing out the extremists and giving them voice.  And I agree some good ideas get lost because they are parodied and partisanized.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16312 on: November 18, 2021, 02:10:53 PM »
It's not a popular thing to say, but I think folks around here can have an honest discussion about this-- one of the main problems with COVID19, is that it so severely affects people with comorbidities.  And here in the USA, one of the most common and problematic comorbidities, is obesity.

I'm not trying to discount the severity of COVID19, but it has been significantly exacerbated by the problem of obesity in our population.

I believe we need much stronger messaging from health officials about this problem.  I believe we're currently very soft on it-- it's come to the point where there is a widespread social justice movement that actually focuses on protecting the feelings of obese people.  There is propaganda and rhetoric that there are all kinds of "healthy bodies" and that fat people can be healthy too.

They can't.  They aren't.  It's a massive issue.  And it's significantly affecting the deadliness of this virus in our country.

Surprisingly, the studies show that smoking doesn't seem to affect the severity of this virus at all.  But obesity most certainly does.

We need to take it MUCH more seriously.



While this is indeed an issue, it’s also fair to say the impact of weight on this disease has been to a degree, overstated. (Not that it doesn’t help to be skinny, but it’s also been misrepresented)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16313 on: November 18, 2021, 02:17:07 PM »
Is it clear that age is the primary comorbidity? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16314 on: November 18, 2021, 02:20:16 PM »
Is it clear that age is the primary comorbidity?
I think so, though it’s also the great co-morbidity. Like, old people are more likely to die from everything. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16315 on: November 18, 2021, 02:30:05 PM »
We are less likely to die climbing out the second floor window of our gf's house when her husband comes home unexpectedly.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16316 on: November 18, 2021, 04:04:37 PM »
We are less likely to die climbing out the second floor window of our gf's house when her husband comes home unexpectedly.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16317 on: November 18, 2021, 04:10:17 PM »
Borax baths as a Covid-19 vaccine detox are a dangerous side effect of misinformation (msnbc.com)

My weird "news item" for the day, how to reverse the COVID vaccine .... 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16318 on: November 18, 2021, 04:40:22 PM »
Borax baths as a Covid-19 vaccine detox are a dangerous side effect of misinformation (msnbc.com)

My weird "news item" for the day, how to reverse the COVID vaccine ....

Bizarre.  People will believe all kinds of weird things they hear on the internet.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16319 on: November 18, 2021, 04:47:20 PM »
I doubt he did anything like that, but my brother said when he revealed he'd actually gone through with getting the shot that he was doing any thing he could to "flush that shit out of me"... :smiley_confused1:

I didn't dig into it further. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16320 on: November 18, 2021, 04:51:25 PM »
sheesh.  Makes me appreciate that much more that my brother and I get along so well.  It's probably because he's not a complete ignoramus.  

No offense intended... ;)



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16321 on: November 18, 2021, 04:56:21 PM »
sheesh.  Makes me appreciate that much more that my brother and I get along so well.  It's probably because he's not a complete ignoramus. 

No offense intended... ;)
Honestly, he's a smart guy. And we get along just fine. 

He's also a stubborn ass who hates to be told what to do, and a pretty hardcore libertarian, which means that his selection of news & opinion sources might lead him down a few rabbit holes that he'd be better off staying out of. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16322 on: November 18, 2021, 04:59:40 PM »
Honestly, he's a smart guy. And we get along just fine.

He's also a stubborn ass who hates to be told what to do, and a pretty hardcore libertarian, which means that his selection of news & opinion sources might lead him down a few rabbit holes that he'd be better off staying out of.
Yeah I hear ya.

I'm probably closer to Libertarian than I am to Dem or Repub, but I go ahead and draw the line on those types of people and their sources, when what they're saying goes completely off the far end of the bullshit meter.  I suppose that's the engineer/scientist in me.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16323 on: November 18, 2021, 05:16:11 PM »
A surge in cases in the Upper Midwest has some Michigan schools keeping students at home ahead of Thanksgiving and the military sending medical teams to Minnesota to relieve hospital staffs overwhelmed by COVID-19 patients.

The worsening outlook in the Midwest comes as booster shots are being made available to everyone in a growing number of locations. Massachusetts and Utah became the latest to say anyone 18 or older can roll up a sleeve for a booster shots, and an advisory committee for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is meeting Friday to discuss expanding boosters.

Cold weather states are dominating the fresh wave of cases over the last seven days, including New Hampshire, North Dakota and Wisconsin, according to federal data. But the Southwest had trouble spots, too, with more than 90% of inpatient hospital beds occupied in Arizona.


In Detroit, where only 35% of eligible residents were fully vaccinated, the school district said it would switch to online learning on Fridays in December because of rising COVID-19 cases, a need to clean buildings and a timeout for “mental health relief.” One high school has changed to all online learning until Nov. 29.

Detroit health officer Denise Fair Razo said new cases have skyrocketed in the city in the last 14 days to 3,858, compared to 2,322 in the previous two-week period.
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