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Cincydawg · « **Reply #16156 on:** November 02, 2021, 04:19:27 PM »

I think his point is that a lot of folks threatened to quit and didn't. It's not to say many did not quit, but more claimed they would. I think that is the case.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #16157 on:** November 02, 2021, 04:27:40 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on November 02, 2021, 04:19:27 PM

I think his point is that a lot of folks threatened to quit and didn't. It's not to say many did not quit, but more claimed they would. I think that is the case.

Yes. I get that. But the “not much substance” and “ talk a big game” are off the mark.

There are a lot of people who feel they are being asked to do something that no one has a right to force on them. And they are willing to look for other employment to back it up.

just moments ago on the local news they’re talking about staffing crisis here in Florida in some hospitals and it’s not because the hospitals have Covid patients anymore, it’s because substantial numbers of people quit over the vaccine mandate.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #16158 on:** November 02, 2021, 04:53:47 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 04:17:27 PM

Funny attitude.

Thousands of employees have quit over this. Probably their loss in the end, but it has absolutely impacted the medical field, travel and first responder services in a a major way in some places. And the labor market in many other ways.

I find it humorous to pretend is hasn’t.

Oh, certainly some have. I wasn't trying to say they haven't.

I'm saying that the number of people who ACTUALLY lost their job over this is a small number compared to those who boasted they WOULD give up their job.

As discussed upthread, my brother is one. He was talking a big game, but in the end, resisting the vaccine out of principle wasn't as important as providing for his wife and son.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #16159 on:** November 02, 2021, 05:09:42 PM »

Quote from: GopherRock on November 02, 2021, 01:38:08 PM

Out of how many who were whining about it? Much sound and fury but very little substance.

Also relevant to this discussion is that COVID-19 is the leading killer of law enforcement officers in the US in both 2020 and 2021.

Apparently a lot are holding out hope on exemptions. Less than promised, but still a lot.

Apparently some folks are falling back on Catholicism? Though the luck with it seems mixed at best.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #16160 on:** November 02, 2021, 05:17:54 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 04:27:40 PM

There are a lot of people who feel they are being asked to do something that no one has a right to force on them. And they are willing to look for other employment to back it up.

It’s interesting how this is tightly tied to this specific vaccine. Like, there are probably some vaccines we could mostly agree you should have to have to work in certain professions (a nurse who can get smallpox seems like a real worry).

Down the road, I wonder about the fallout. Like, everyone of us is probably vaxxed up to the hilt. With the way these discussions are going, to more folks opt out of giving their kids more traditionally accepted vaccines?

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #16161 on:** November 02, 2021, 05:35:00 PM »

Quote from: bayareabadger on November 02, 2021, 05:17:54 PM

It’s interesting how this is tightly tied to this specific vaccine. Like, there are probably some vaccines we could mostly agree you should have to have to work in certain professions (a nurse who can get smallpox seems like a real worry).

Down the road, I wonder about the fallout. Like, everyone of us is probably vaxxed up to the hilt. With the way these discussions are going, to more folks opt out of giving their kids more traditionally accepted vaccines?

Good question. Just for clarity- I don’t have strong opinions About this. I guess I would lean towards believing that an employer has the right to require it from their employees. But I kind of lean against feeling like the government or any branch of the government has the right to mandate it to someone who is not their employee

FearlessF · « **Reply #16162 on:** November 02, 2021, 07:51:09 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 04:17:27 PM

Funny attitude.

Thousands of employees have quit over this. Probably their loss in the end, but it has absolutely impacted the medical field, travel and first responder services in a a major way in some places. And the labor market in many other ways.

I find it humorous to pretend is hasn’t.

depends on your definition of major way

hospitals, airlines, first responders haven't shut down and caused the issues that the Pandemic caused a year ago
I find i humorous to pretend this has caused a big issue

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #16163 on:** November 02, 2021, 08:09:13 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on November 02, 2021, 07:51:09 PM

depends on your definition of major way

hospitals, airlines, first responders haven't shut down and caused the issues that the Pandemic caused a year ago
I find i humorous to pretend this has caused a big issue

https://www.foxnews.com/us/austin-burglary-more-police

I am sure you do find it humorous. I could post hundreds of these stories. But your in either the denial camp or the it doesn’t affect me camp

enjoy your laughter.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #16164 on:** November 02, 2021, 08:11:07 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on November 02, 2021, 07:51:09 PM

depends on your definition of major way

hospitals, airlines, first responders haven't shut down and caused the issues that the Pandemic caused a year ago
I find i humorous to pretend this has caused a big issue

I will add, Yours is a total false equivalency.

it’s almost off-topic. You’re comparing what was caused to be shut down because of a pandemic we could not control to a vaccine mandate that is 100% human being caused. Kind of weird actually

FearlessF · « **Reply #16165 on:** November 02, 2021, 08:20:56 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 08:09:13 PM

https://www.foxnews.com/us/austin-burglary-more-police

I am sure you do find it humorous. I could post hundreds of these stories. But your in either the denial camp or the it doesn’t affect me camp

enjoy your laughter.

first of all, you laughed first
2nd, to equate shoplifting to almost anything life threatening is silly

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #16166 on:** November 02, 2021, 08:31:49 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on November 02, 2021, 08:20:56 PM

first of all, you laughed first
2nd, to equate shoplifting to almost anything life threatening is silly

So your ok with shoplifting being let go, and ok with the shoplifter attacking the business owner?
your ok with the PD telling the community not to call if it is not life threatening?
your ok with having your flight cancelled close to flight time?
your ok with your medical procedure being moved to a far away hospital because your local one has a huge staff shortages?

these are the “ nothings” happening more than you either know, or want to admit.

utee94 · « **Reply #16167 on:** November 02, 2021, 09:18:57 PM »

Guys this isn't productive and it's not really all that coronavirus related.

If you want to argue the politics of mandates, do it elsewhere.

Thank You For Your Support.

FearlessF · « **Reply #16168 on:** November 02, 2021, 09:22:19 PM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 08:31:49 PM

So your ok with shoplifting being let go, and ok with the shoplifter attacking the business owner?
your ok with the PD telling the community not to call if it is not life threatening?
your ok with having your flight cancelled close to flight time?
your ok with your medical procedure being moved to a far away hospital because your local one has a huge staff shortages?

these are the “ nothings” happening more than you either know, or want to admit.

nope. see my posts about sending in the national guard to downtown Chicago for violent crimes
I'm not ok with any of these things, but.............
Probably their loss in the end, but it has absolutely impacted the medical field, travel and first responder services in a a major way in some places. And the labor market in many other ways.

In your words, probably their loss in the end.
In my definition, probably not a major thing
we keep moving forward, the medical field, travel and first responders and all others

FearlessF · « **Reply #16169 on:** November 02, 2021, 09:23:22 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on November 02, 2021, 09:18:57 PM

Guys this isn't productive and it's not really all that coronavirus related.

If you want to argue the politics of mandates, do it elsewhere.

Thank You For Your Support.

agreed it's not productive, but politics hasn't been mentioned by either of us

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