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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16142 on: November 01, 2021, 04:11:10 PM »
I would guess the vax is also at least a little bit useful to preventing spread
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16143 on: November 01, 2021, 04:13:31 PM »
Was hanging out with my brother [he's a pilot for United] on Saturday and I asked him about the Southwest thing. He had actually just been talking to a pilot for Southwest and they talked about it.

Apparently it was not some big "sick-out" protest. There were some pilots who apparently knew that when this mandate came through would be out of a job, and a lot of those pilots that had sick time available burned through it, which is probably where the rumor that it was a big "sick-out" protest came from.

From what he's said, it's mostly structural issues that all kinda bubbled up at the same time. Southwest was already understaffed and having staffing problems trying to come back from the downturn during COVID. 

He did say it wasn't weather. That was [as mentioned by others here] just a cover story. But it was covering for the fact that they're having staffing problems, not that they had a vaccine protest in their work force. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16144 on: November 01, 2021, 04:14:34 PM »
I would guess the vax is also at least a little bit useful to preventing spread
Yeah, it's that, too.  But at this point, the issue should be protecting yourself and your loved ones, from the worst symptoms.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16145 on: November 01, 2021, 04:16:40 PM »
Was hanging out with my brother [he's a pilot for United] on Saturday and I asked him about the Southwest thing. He had actually just been talking to a pilot for Southwest and they talked about it.

Apparently it was not some big "sick-out" protest. There were some pilots who apparently knew that when this mandate came through would be out of a job, and a lot of those pilots that had sick time available burned through it, which is probably where the rumor that it was a big "sick-out" protest came from.

From what he's said, it's mostly structural issues that all kinda bubbled up at the same time. Southwest was already understaffed and having staffing problems trying to come back from the downturn during COVID.

He did say it wasn't weather. That was [as mentioned by others here] just a cover story. But it was covering for the fact that they're having staffing problems, not that they had a vaccine protest in their work force.

A good friend of mine has been a flight attendant for Southwest for over 20 years.  She was furloughed or whatever during the early part of the pandemic, and then decided she just didn't want to go back.  She said a lot of her friends in the company decided the same.

She'd been doing real estate part time anyway, for many years, so now that's her full time gig.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16146 on: November 01, 2021, 04:46:29 PM »
Was hanging out with my brother [he's a pilot for United] on Saturday and I asked him about the Southwest thing. He had actually just been talking to a pilot for Southwest and they talked about it.
did he get the vax?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16147 on: November 01, 2021, 04:57:36 PM »
did he get the vax?
Yeah, he finally relented. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16148 on: November 01, 2021, 04:58:27 PM »
Nordic countries have already flat out banned/pulled Moderna and Pfizer vaccines from being used on children due to high rates of myocarditis induced by these vaccines.
Mdot - do you have a link? As I'd like see what they have to say
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16149 on: November 01, 2021, 05:02:48 PM »
Mdot posted multiple links up thread
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16151 on: November 02, 2021, 01:38:08 PM »
Nearly 90 NYPD officers forced to go on leave over vaccine mandate | TheHill
Out of how many who were whining about it? Much sound and fury but very little substance.

Also relevant to this discussion is that COVID-19 is the leading killer of law enforcement officers in the US in both 2020 and 2021.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16152 on: November 02, 2021, 01:44:44 PM »
90 who probably have been hating their job for the past year or many much longer

looking for an excuse to go on leave
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16153 on: November 02, 2021, 03:29:36 PM »
I'd guess, 90 is a quarter of a percent apparently.  I'd bet many more threatened and caved.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16154 on: November 02, 2021, 03:52:48 PM »
I'd guess, 90 is a quarter of a percent apparently.  I'd bet many more threatened and caved.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16155 on: November 02, 2021, 04:17:27 PM »
People talk a big game until their paycheck is on the line...
Funny attitude.   

Thousands of employees have quit over this.   Probably their loss in the end, but it has absolutely impacted the medical field, travel and first responder services in a a major way in some places. And the labor market in many other ways.  

I find it humorous to pretend is hasn’t.  
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