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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16115 on: October 29, 2021, 08:41:30 AM »
We have been trying to get my dad in AZ transferred from a stand alone ER to a hospital since about 5 p.m. central time. Eight hours later he is approved to go 70-miles away. No room in Tucson, tonight. Spread of COVID is pretty strong there, and in Iowa very strong here, too. Nationwide going down, but we are peaking in Iowa and AZ.

He is non-COVID.
Woodbury County (Sioux City) seems to have peaked 3-4 weeks ago - fortunately


https://iowacovid19tracker.org/woodbury-county/
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16116 on: October 29, 2021, 09:25:01 AM »
This is very interesting.

How Bad Is Delta Variant? Vaccinated, Unvaccinated People Can Spread It: Study - Bloomberg


For sure.  I don't think there's anything new here that hasn't already been determined, or at least speculated from reasonable interpretation of ongoing events.  But I do want to see more studies verifying.

The virus and especially Delta variant can infect vaccinated individuals, and can be transmitted by vaccinated individuals.  But the cases for vaccinated individuals are milder in symptoms and shorter in duration.

Like I've said before, we need to stop worrying about infection/case rates, and focus on actual sickness.  The virus is becoming endemic, and will be with us forever.  We've projected that this would happen for well over a year now.

We need to stop suggesting to people to become vaccinated to help with herd immunity, and change the focus entirely to: "Getting the vaccine goes a long way toward keeping you out of the hospital."

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16117 on: October 29, 2021, 09:34:03 AM »
That doesn't play well with parents of kids being asked to vaccinated them in many cases.  They see that kids don't get sick often, and don't realize they can be spreaders.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16118 on: October 29, 2021, 09:39:27 AM »
Delta variant does seem to be sending more children to the hospital

that would be enough to motivate me as a parent
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16119 on: October 29, 2021, 09:40:13 AM »
Kids can be spreaders with or without the vax. Covid don't care.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16120 on: October 29, 2021, 09:42:48 AM »
Everybody's a spreader at this point.  And will be, forever.  We'll all get infected by the virus over the next 5-10 years.  Probably multiple times.  Most of us won't even know we had it.

Get the vax for your own health.  Get your kids vaccinated for theirs.

People don't get the flu shot because they're trying to help prevent the spread-- they get the flu shot because they don't want to get the flu.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16121 on: October 29, 2021, 12:02:02 PM »
Globally reported COVID deaths 5.0 Million:


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« Reply #16122 on: October 29, 2021, 04:53:13 PM »

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« Reply #16123 on: October 30, 2021, 08:24:11 AM »
Got the booster. They gave us Pfizer even though we had Moderna for the first two.

I guess that's good?

No issues. Arm not sore either.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16124 on: October 30, 2021, 09:03:48 AM »
Looks like it's "over" down here.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16125 on: October 30, 2021, 10:12:06 AM »
I dont think todays SCOTUS would favor mandatory vaccinations in the situation we find ourselves today

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1454201781253246985?s=20


Supreme Court declines to block Maine vaccine mandate.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16126 on: October 30, 2021, 10:14:02 AM »
Got the word yesterday my company has rescinded the mask mandate again due to low levels in our area. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16127 on: October 30, 2021, 10:15:51 AM »
Got the booster. They gave us Pfizer even though we had Moderna for the first two.

I guess that's good?

No issues. Arm not sore either.

Seems like latest guidance is you can mix and match.  Not sure there are any decent studies yet, but the speculation is that mixing could provide broader protection.

 

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