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OAM's political bullshit post was, quite predictably, deleted.

badger's response remains because he addressed actual specific policies/actions/issues in a reasonable way.

We might or might not agree with what badger said, but it wasn't childish and deliberately incendiary.  It allows for and even invites debate.

See the difference?

Most do.

The good news is this "wave" appears to be on the downside, again, after two months.  I have not heard of a new variant causing issues globally.

Sounds like there is a new variant in the UK. I've not gotten into it.


Covid-19: New mutation of Delta variant under close watch in UK - BBC News

Not really.

What the hell are you talking about? It wasn't about POLITICS.

It was what the PEOPLE wanted. You know, the ones who he is supposed to represent? And now we have a vax. He's not going to administer shots by himself, nor will he mandate them. It's up to the people. It's not his choice to have people die. It's his choice to let his people have a choice.

This is what the red, white, and blue undies people get wrong here:  the choice you're referring to isn't about yourself, but of the people around you.  A person not wearing a mask is putting those around them more at risk than they're putting himself at risk.  
DeSantis blames Biden and immigrants while ignoring his own policies.  The numbers are what they are, and no explanation - whether measured or "psycho" like mine will change the minds of anyone playing for the red team.  

THAT is the political problem here, not my posts.  It's the public message, influence, and backwards policies under the guise of freedom that is doing damage.  And yes, killing lives.  

I guess suicide is legal, but does it have to be promoted?!?  
Oh, I get to keep my store open if 3 random people in my city die?  FINE BY ME.

More people are dying in FL because everyone living outside the cities and interior of the coasts is a dipshit and the governor is a dipshit. 

Yeah, great point- except for the fact that the majority of the population in Florida live in like 3 areas. You've got South Florida, Greater Orlando, and the Tampa Bay area. The Top 5 counties with the most COVID death totals in Florida? In order 1-5; Miami-Dade (SoFL), Broward (SoFL), Palm Beach (SoFL), Hillsborough (Tampa), and Orange (Orlando). Those 5 counties have had close to 24,000 COVID deaths. The entire state has had 58,000 COVID deaths. There are 62 other counties in Florida. 

Florida coronavirus cases have declined 88% over the past 6 weeks whereas other states are starting to see a surges now as the weather turns.

COVID has killed 728k people in the US- there are 331 million citizens in this country and another 45 to 50 million people here legally on travel/business visas or even here illegally at any given time. Take the smaller number of 45 million and add it to 331 million. That's 376 million people. Divide that by the number of deaths. What do you get? A disease that is killing .0193% of the population. Literally 99.98+% of the population is not dying- but OH MY GOD THE HORROR! LET'S SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN AND STOP THE WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD AND LET CIVILIZATION CRUMBLE AROUND US BC IT'S JUST TOO DANGEROUS!!!!! WHAT WILL WE EVER DO! PLEASE TAKE CARE OF US AND TELL US WHAT TO DO DADDY GOVERNMENT!!!! IT'S TOOOOO SCARY OUT HERE!!!!

Oh yeah- by the way of the 728k deaths- literally half of those deaths were nursing home deaths- ie people old as f*#k who are on deaths doorstep already just waiting to die. Grammy and grampy have to die sometime- no one lives forever. There's no such thing as utopia where everyone lives forever you driveling pussy. Not to mention 94% of COVID deaths had MULTIPLE COMORBIDITIES such as heart disease, obesity, diabetes. Virtually zero deaths have been children. Virtually almost zero deaths have been young healthy adults. 

You really need to get a new shtick.

The vaccine is available.  Those who want it, have gotten it.  Those who don't want it, have not.  They've made their choice and taken their lives in their own hands.  

The SCIENCE tells us that wearing masks provides no incremental benefit of statistical significance, above and beyond being vaccinated.  Mathematically, masking up vaccinated individuals provides no increased benefit, retains no utility, and serves no purpose.

We need to stop talking about masks at all, and focus entirely on encouraging the unvaxed to get vaxed. 

*Note, in all of the above, I am excluding children that are not yet of age to receive the vaccine.  That's why I'm actually okay with local mask mandates for schools grades K-8.  My kids are both vaccinated but many at their school are not yet old enough, so they all wear the masks.

MDot-- Mentioning specific political parties and politicians by name and running them down for being from that political party is THE most surefire way to get deleted.

Do better.