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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15526 on: September 13, 2021, 02:44:52 PM »
It started to get really hot here... and people went inside. SPIKE!!

It's gonna get cold up North, and people will go inside. SPIKE!!

Hopefully enough people have had Covid or the vaccine, which would make me wrong. I'd be happy to be wrong.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15527 on: September 13, 2021, 02:55:48 PM »
The Florida surge started around July 5, I imagine it was hot before that.  It probably is still hot.

The Georgia surge started around July 14 and peaked around August 27.  And the previous wave was in January.

It's 88°F here at the moment.  

Staying inside more often MAY be a factor, no doubt, but it's not the only factor.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15528 on: September 13, 2021, 02:58:39 PM »
Started to get really hot around June 1. A lot of vaccinations since that time, combined with natural immunity. 

The snowbirds are coming soon. We'll see what they bring with them.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15532 on: September 13, 2021, 11:07:51 PM »

https://twitter.com/davidzweig/status/1437498008304750595?s=20

Someone needs to explain to me how an asymptomatic covid case results in a hospital visit.  Please.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15533 on: September 13, 2021, 11:43:06 PM »
Someone needs to explain to me how an asymptomatic covid case results in a hospital visit.  Please. 
Easy. They were already there for other reasons. Happened to be COVID positive but asymptomatic.

Mild & Incidental makes lot of sense too. Lot of FKIN sheeple retards who get a cough and run to the hospital thinking they are going to die from COVID in 10 minutes because that's what the morons they watch on the news try to fill their stupid heads with. Media has literally become fake scare porn. And they invent shit out of whole cloth like that story about rural Oklahomans eating horse paste to battle COVID and then OD'ing and filling up ER's so much that gunshot victims can't get treated that Rolling Stone published and that disgusting man Rachel Maddow kept parroting on his stupid tv show while he makes $30,000 A DAY for filling stupid peoples heads with bullshit.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15534 on: September 14, 2021, 12:29:32 AM »



https://twitter.com/davidzweig/status/1437498008304750595?s=20

While interesting, that headline is pretty irresponsible. It’s basically a new, not yet reviewed study. And there are some weird selection biases, namely that its focused heavily on veterans. 

A friend’s wife did her residency at a VA hospital. She shared that you had a lot of folks who would come in with minor stuff because it was covered, and as older folks, they had the time to roll ok for a checkup just to get a free bottle of aspirin. 

That’s not to say it’s bunk, but to say, it’s gonna be run with as serious fact far more quickly than it should be. 


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15535 on: September 14, 2021, 08:00:32 AM »
I wouldn't call it irresponsible. It's just reporting data - not scientific content.

How about this one? It was linked in the above article.

Study: Number of Kids Hospitalized for COVID Is Overcounted (nymag.com)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15536 on: September 14, 2021, 08:04:30 AM »
I've been to the ER a few times, and roughly half the other cases I hear about through curtains are hypochondriacs or simple items like "I have a pain".

Folks don't have access to PCPs so they use the ER, some go for anything and everything.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15537 on: September 14, 2021, 08:58:17 AM »
The bigger question is this: why is anyone taking medical advice from Joe Rogan?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15538 on: September 14, 2021, 09:03:34 AM »
I don't know that many are, and the "evidence" that IV is at all effective is, um, scant.

We've noted before how some folks base medical decisions on some weird claim by some public person with zero medical background.  GNC in my view makes a business out of this.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15539 on: September 14, 2021, 10:25:02 AM »
I wouldn't call it irresponsible. It's just reporting data - not scientific content.

How about this one? It was linked in the above article.

Study: Number of Kids Hospitalized for COVID Is Overcounted (nymag.com)

I mean, the headline is "Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning." So it's not couched. The earlier one actually has a better headline, with a bit more nuance and caution.

We're in this weird place where folks are mad at the media for misconstruing things and boiling them down to something that washes over the nuance, but this is constructed in a way to be waved around by folks who aim to do, just that. As we share this, what's the main takeaway for many? That situations are overblown, we're being lied to and we should really be thinking less about it.

And somewhere low in the article is a nice point: "The study also demonstrates that hospitalization rates for COVID, as cited by journalists and policy makers, can be misleading, if not considered carefully." This is true, but so too should we consider the study and its implications carefully. 

It's saying we should take those numbers with more context (we should, as we should take all numbers that way). And we should also take these numbers in context. They include impact of the vaccine, making more cases low-to-non-symtomatic, and that with the timeline, this was going to happen to a degree because we'd put the clamps on less serious hospital visits. So a nuanced takeaway, I'd think, is narrow: A spike now isn't a spike from back then, which is a good addition to a nuanced perspective. 

 

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