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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15484 on: September 12, 2021, 01:23:29 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2021, 01:15:03 PM
I've got a few employees who will absolutely not get the vaccine. Two of them have had the virus, and one is based on religion.

We are not over 100 people, so no worries. But, I'd hate to lose even one employee over this, particularly because they are all very good, and also due to the shortage in people to hire.
many companies get around this be allowing the employee to work but wearing a mask or maybe work from home

its not a democracy its a privately held company and as long as there is no discrimination involved the company can require vaccination or at least an antibody test

again the mask wearing might be a way to satisfy both parties
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15485 on: September 12, 2021, 01:34:27 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2021, 01:15:03 PM
I've got a few employees who will absolutely not get the vaccine. Two of them have had the virus, and one is based on religion.

We are not over 100 people, so no worries. But, I'd hate to lose even one employee over this, particularly because they are all very good, and also due to the shortage in people to hire.
I'll be interested if there's any client-side pushback in places. Like if clients decline to work with someone who could theoretically get them more sick. 

That said, I don't know the dynamics of your shop. That matters a lot. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15486 on: September 12, 2021, 02:28:12 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2021, 01:15:03 PM
I've got a few employees who will absolutely not get the vaccine. Two of them have had the virus, and one is based on religion.
So bad ideas all around then?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15487 on: September 12, 2021, 02:41:40 PM »
Having had the virus is better immunity than being vaccinated, we are slowly learning.

I don't get the religion thing, but then again, I'm not part of one that is anti-vax (all vax).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15488 on: September 12, 2021, 02:44:02 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on September 12, 2021, 01:34:27 PM
I'll be interested if there's any client-side pushback in places. Like if clients decline to work with someone who could theoretically get them more sick.

That said, I don't know the dynamics of your shop. That matters a lot.
We have had one incident. A client called the office and asked why we had the audacity to send an unvaccinated survey tech to his site. He was pissed.

We... work outside... with no contact... when we are working... on site...

Those are the clients I don't mind losing. We've got plenty of good ones (too many) to have shitty ones.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15489 on: September 12, 2021, 03:21:42 PM »
New Studies Find Evidence Of 'Superhuman' Immunity To COVID-19 In Some People : Goats and Soda : NPR
New Studies Find Evidence Of 'Superhuman' Immunity To COVID-19 In Some People : Goats and Soda : NPR
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15490 on: September 12, 2021, 04:39:47 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2021, 02:41:40 PM
Having had the virus is better immunity than being vaccinated, we are slowly learning.
And there is significant evidence that having the virus and subsequently getting vaccinated is better than either. It's unclear whether the full benefit requires two shots or only one, if you've had the virus naturally, though.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15491 on: September 12, 2021, 09:29:35 PM »
My company has a bona fide medical dept ( very large chemical co). There is a md, nurses, etc. About every three years we have a medical checkup. Give blood, check bp, hearing check. We were required to send our vaccine card to the medical dept via the Mychart app. If you’re not vaccinated you must continue to wear your mask etc. of course they loosened up the rules but recently tightened them up with the surge. So far it’s not a hard requirement but we’ll see what happens with the new mandates. I did get the vaccine so I uploaded it to my file. I also reported to the medical dept when I had COVID and had to be cleared to return. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15492 on: September 12, 2021, 09:36:16 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on September 12, 2021, 01:23:29 PM
again the mask wearing might be a way to satisfy both parties
mask wearing does nearly nothing 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15493 on: September 13, 2021, 12:16:38 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on September 12, 2021, 04:39:47 PM
And there is significant evidence that having the virus and subsequently getting vaccinated is better than either. It's unclear whether the full benefit requires two shots or only one, if you've had the virus naturally, though.
I should have a high degree of immunity, as I had the Pfizer vaccine, and I had asymptomatic COVID-19. But, I am not sure how much protection asymptomatic COVID-19 provides, or if possibly the asymptomatic part tells me I have an awesome immune system. I suspect it tells me the 20-minute exposure I had to two infected clients while wearing a surgical mask resulted in me receiving very little viral load. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15494 on: September 13, 2021, 12:17:27 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15495 on: September 13, 2021, 12:59:51 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 12, 2021, 09:36:16 PM
mask wearing does nearly nothing
Depends on who is wearing it.  Gee, with all these anti-vaxers and anti-maskers, it's a wonder this thing spread worldwide.  We must have just been unlucky.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15496 on: September 13, 2021, 07:48:04 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on September 13, 2021, 12:16:38 AM
I should have a high degree of immunity, as I had the Pfizer vaccine, and I had asymptomatic COVID-19. But, I am not sure how much protection asymptomatic COVID-19 provides, or if possibly the asymptomatic part tells me I have an awesome immune system. I suspect it tells me the 20-minute exposure I had to two infected clients while wearing a surgical mask resulted in me receiving very little viral load.
this tells me an elementary kid in proximity to 20 other kids 8 hours a day week after week while wearing a cloth mask isn't going to help much at all

it also tells me going to a busy walmart with a cloth mask is taking a considerable risk 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15497 on: September 13, 2021, 08:08:55 AM »
I'll wear a mask when I have to. Otherwise I will not.

Flying to Chicago next week for a wedding. I guess we have to wear a mask in there too, as health inspectors will be spying on everyone to make sure. Fun stuff.
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