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utee94 · « **Reply #15386 on:** September 03, 2021, 09:36:18 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 03, 2021, 09:14:44 AM

Only one person I know has been in the hospital. He's still battling, 9 months later. Permanent lung damage.

(4 co-morbs)

I still do not know anyone who has passed from this.

Yeah with 1 in 700, and not accounting for age distribution, then it's possible I'd personally "know" maybe 1 person. I have something like 350 Facebook friends (though I only regularly interact with perhaps 100 of them). 'Then there's work colleagues, so maybe another 60 or 70 that I can claim to personally know. Old family friends and relatives and even parents of my friends that aren't on Facebook, maybe another 50 or 60 of them. Favorite bartenders and restaurant workers that I'd count as people I know, another 20. That all adds up to 500 people I would say that I "know." And as far as i know, not one of them have been killed or hospitalized by COVID.

To get up to 5 people I knew that were killed by COVID, again just using averages and avoiding digging into age distribution, I'd have to know 3500 people. I don't know 3500 people. To get to 10, I'd have to know 7,000 people. I definitely don't know 7,000 people.

So again, I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out there was one person I knew, who had died. But anything more than that would be pretty surprising, and there are some people on this message board or others I frequent, that say they've lost up to 10 people.

That's really crazy and doesn't follow using averages. Obviously age will have something to do with it, but I'm almost 50 and know a lot of people that are older.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #15387 on:** September 03, 2021, 10:18:30 AM »

I too do not know anyone who died from covid

GopherRock · « **Reply #15388 on:** September 03, 2021, 10:50:52 AM »

I know several people who have had COVID, but do not know anyone who has died. And both the Mrs. and I feel VERY lucky about that.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #15389 on:** September 03, 2021, 11:05:39 AM »

I don't know any personally, but I do find Randal's advice from the movie Clerks to be a sort of personal motto: "I find it's best to stay out of other people's affairs."

My wife has a HS friend who she only kept up with via Facebook who died from it, and he was our age.

I do think that a lot of it is that we are young(ish), so most of the people we know in our social circles are young(ish). We're fortunate that none of the immediate or extended family members that are in more vulnerable groups were affected, but that's a pretty small number compared to, say, someone who is 70 and spends most of their time around people in that age group.

utee94 · « **Reply #15390 on:** September 03, 2021, 11:09:50 AM »

Quote from: GopherRock on September 03, 2021, 10:50:52 AM

I know several people who have had COVID, but do not know anyone who has died. And both the Mrs. and I feel VERY lucky about that.

Yup I personally know probably 15-20 people who've had it, including my 13yo daughter, and my 80yo+ MIL and FIL.

I even know one person who has had it twice-- the college-aged son of a friend, who had it back in summer 2020, got vaccinated in spring 2021, and got it again in summer 2021.

But I don't know anyone that's been hospitalized or dead.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #15391 on:** September 03, 2021, 11:17:42 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on September 01, 2020, 05:40:16 PM

This pandemic has been bad obviously, but considering the possibilities we faced back in late March, it has not been as bad as I feared.

I was looking back a year ago when CFB was looking dicey, folks were just hoping MLB would hang in there. Unfortunately the US did experience 600,000 deaths attributed to COVID. This year CFB looks pretty normal, to me, as does MLB.

I still don't understand the virus though.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #15392 on:** September 03, 2021, 11:28:11 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on September 03, 2021, 11:17:42 AM

I still don't understand the virus though.

Nobody does, except for a few people who may or may not be dead today.

Gigem · « **Reply #15393 on:** September 03, 2021, 11:32:18 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2021, 09:36:18 AM

Yeah with 1 in 700, and not accounting for age distribution, then it's possible I'd personally "know" maybe 1 person. I have something like 350 Facebook friends (though I only regularly interact with perhaps 100 of them). 'Then there's work colleagues, so maybe another 60 or 70 that I can claim to personally know. Old family friends and relatives and even parents of my friends that aren't on Facebook, maybe another 50 or 60 of them. Favorite bartenders and restaurant workers that I'd count as people I know, another 20. That all adds up to 500 people I would say that I "know." And as far as i know, not one of them have been killed or hospitalized by COVID.

To get up to 5 people I knew that were killed by COVID, again just using averages and avoiding digging into age distribution, I'd have to know 3500 people. I don't know 3500 people. To get to 10, I'd have to know 7,000 people. I definitely don't know 7,000 people.

So again, I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out there was one person I knew, who had died. But anything more than that would be pretty surprising, and there are some people on this message board or others I frequent, that say they've lost up to 10 people.

That's really crazy and doesn't follow using averages. Obviously age will have something to do with it, but I'm almost 50 and know a lot of people that are older.

Just curious does this group of people involve any "plus one" type people. Like the friend of a cousin? Or the cousin of a friend type people? Or maybe somebody at works mom or dad? Of the 14 deaths I know about 5 are "plus one" type situation where I don't know them directly but there is one degree of separation type scenario.

I'd say I know hundreds of people who have had covid.

utee94 · « **Reply #15394 on:** September 03, 2021, 11:44:24 AM »

Quote from: Gigem on September 03, 2021, 11:32:18 AM

Just curious does this group of people involve any "plus one" type people. Like the friend of a cousin? Or the cousin of a friend type people? Or maybe somebody at works mom or dad? Of the 14 deaths I know about 5 are "plus one" type situation where I don't know them directly but there is one degree of separation type scenario.

I'd say I know hundreds of people who have had covid.

If I've never met someone, then no, I'm not counting them as "someone I know." It wouldn't make any sense for me to do so.

I guess I could count that as "someone I know of" but then the same would be true of every death I hear about in the news.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #15395 on:** September 03, 2021, 11:55:29 AM »

Quote from: Gigem on September 03, 2021, 11:32:18 AM

Just curious does this group of people involve any "plus one" type people. Like the friend of a cousin? Or the cousin of a friend type people? Or maybe somebody at works mom or dad? Of the 14 deaths I know about 5 are "plus one" type situation where I don't know them directly but there is one degree of separation type scenario.

I'd say I know hundreds of people who have had covid.

Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2021, 11:44:24 AM

If I've never met someone, then no, I'm not counting them as "someone I know." It wouldn't make any sense for me to do so.

I guess I could count that as "someone I know of" but then the same would be true of every death I hear about in the news.

Yeah, that's why I differentiated that my wife knows someone, who I do not know, who died from COVID.

It would be easy to claim that as a "plus one" type person, because c'mon, it's my wife. But I think that throws everything off because the moment you start including all the available "plus ones", it can spiral pretty quickly. Even if it's only one degree of separation, that means the, say, 100 people I know who also each know 100 people equals 10,000 people.

Gigem · « **Reply #15396 on:** September 03, 2021, 11:56:32 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2021, 11:44:24 AM

If I've never met someone, then no, I'm not counting them as "someone I know." It wouldn't make any sense for me to do so.

I guess I could count that as "someone I know of" but then the same would be true of every death I hear about in the news.

But do you even know of any plus ones? Do you hear other people talking about somebody they know dying of covid? Here in smalltown Tx I hear of a lot more people dying of covid than I'm even counting on my list. I see names in the paper of people I'm vaguely familiar with and sometimes I ask if anybody knew how they died. COVID comes up a lot.

That's all I'm asking.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #15397 on:** September 03, 2021, 12:13:17 PM »

The US usually has just under 2.9 million deaths a year due to all causes. We're now running in the 3.4 million range, so of deaths we know about, roughly 1/6th were attributed to COVID. How often does a person you know of die in a year? For me, it's pretty rare, forunately, well under 6, mostly aunts and uncles.

I don't know that many people around here of course.

One in six.

utee94 · « **Reply #15398 on:** September 03, 2021, 01:31:28 PM »

Quote from: Gigem on September 03, 2021, 11:56:32 AM

But do you even know of any plus ones? Do you hear other people talking about somebody they know dying of covid? Here in smalltown Tx I hear of a lot more people dying of covid than I'm even counting on my list. I see names in the paper of people I'm vaguely familiar with and sometimes I ask if anybody knew how they died. COVID comes up a lot.

That's all I'm asking.

No, I don't think I even know any +1s that have died. I've heard of one friend of my dad's that I've never met, who went into the hospital last summer, and then recovered.

That's really about it.

I heard on the news about a former Longhorn football player who died of COVID, and so did his wife a couple of days later, which is a really tragic story of course, especially since they had a couple of youngish kids. He went to my high school and was a couple of years younger than me, but I didn't know him and can't recall ever really talking to him. If I did, it would have been 33 years ago at the most recent. I only found out about it because he was news-worthy in Austin as being a former Longhorn football player.

FearlessF · « **Reply #15399 on:** September 03, 2021, 03:12:58 PM »

A doctor in rural Oklahoma said the number of people overdosing on the deworming medication ivermectin was so high that emergency rooms were filled to the brim.

The situation is so dire that people with gunshot wounds have to wait their turn to get treatment, Dr. Jason McElyea, an ER physician affiliated with hospitals in Sallisaw, told KFOR, an NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City.

McElyea spoke to the channel this week about the dangers of overdosing on the version of ivermectin meant for use in livestock. He said the hospitals he worked at became overwhelmed after people started taking ivermectin, believing unverified claims that it's an effective COVID-19 treatment.

"The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated," McElyea said.

https://www.insider.com/oklahomas-emergency-rooms-are-clogged-with-people-overdosing-on-ivermectin-2021-9

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