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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15330 on: August 29, 2021, 03:50:43 PM »
I don't think people here discount the effects of getting Covid. It certainly was a rough couple of days for me, but not terrible. Some do worse than others. Some do better.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15331 on: August 29, 2021, 03:52:02 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 29, 2021, 01:05:04 PM
Mentally, most people can understand percentages more easily than decimals.
That's true and fair. I suppose most people, close to all people, are to a degree bad at understanding percentages at large.

(I don't mean that to be rude, just that percentages large and small are hard to wrap our heads around. Like if a contagious disease had a 3 percent death rate, it would be a disaster, and all sorts of gambling still exist despite bad math)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15332 on: August 29, 2021, 09:26:52 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 29, 2021, 03:26:39 PM
I like when discussions about the virus omit all non-lethal issues people have with it.  As if you're not dead, you're fine. 
I didn't take it that way

not sure why you or others would take it that way
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15333 on: August 29, 2021, 09:28:53 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 29, 2021, 10:13:04 AM
True. I wonder if I'd get paid more. In any case, Naples probably isn't the place to be single in one's 30s. At one point, I was looking at a job down that way like a decade ago. They were not interested, alas.
 don't know if I've ever asked you bayarea- but are you in big tech or investment? Just wondering bc the big tech & investment banking crew are moving heavy into SoFL right now. And that's a GREAT place to be a single male with a high income. Like- an unbelievably great place.
 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15334 on: August 29, 2021, 10:57:46 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 29, 2021, 09:28:53 PM
don't know if I've ever asked you bayarea- but are you in big tech or investment? Just wondering bc the big tech & investment banking crew are moving heavy into SoFL right now. And that's a GREAT place to be a single male with a high income. Like- an unbelievably great place.
 
Comms and marketing. Though I'm stating to move into the tech space. Maybe down the line. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15335 on: August 30, 2021, 09:41:15 AM »
The good news is France appears to be heading down, fairly clearly.  They could do a UK of course, which has leveled from a second bump.

Spain continues down.  Sweden is slightly up, but as yet not a spike at all.  India I can't explain at all, low vax rate, sharp peak and then sharp decline.  Brazil trending down, they never had a sharp peak, more like the Appalachians.

Florida still pending, might be peaking, yet, or not.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15336 on: August 30, 2021, 10:05:29 AM »
Minnesota has been holding steady state for 10 days. 

Also, good friends of ours are supposed to go to Greece next weekend for two weeks. The EU will be closing the Schengen zone to new arrivals this week. Needless to say, they are royally pissed right now.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15337 on: August 30, 2021, 10:12:11 AM »
We're looking at a Baltic Cruise in May and I've yet to reserve it, even though I can delay it later if needed.  My wife can get in, but not me.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15338 on: August 30, 2021, 10:19:23 AM »
Quote from: GopherRock on August 30, 2021, 10:05:29 AM
Minnesota has been holding steady state for 10 days.

Also, good friends of ours are supposed to go to Greece next weekend for two weeks. The EU will be closing the Schengen zone to new arrivals this week. Needless to say, they are royally pissed right now.
Is this a done deal now?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15339 on: August 30, 2021, 10:26:30 AM »
Sounds like it was discussed on Thursday to take effect this week. AP is running with it. 

https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-europe-business-health-travel-9c0f10f0af7e4d7fab63d6d8d4ed844c
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15340 on: August 30, 2021, 03:46:10 PM »
It's an EU recommendation but member countries are allowed to do their own thing. Tell your friends to double-check the specific requirements in Greece.  This is what the Italian ministry is saying as of today, 


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Persons travelling from Canada, Japan and the United States of America may enter Italy by presenting a ‘Green Pass’ (or equivalent certificate issued by the local health authorities attesting that they are fully vaccinate with a European Medicines Agency (EMA) validated vaccine), a negative swab test carried out within the previous 72 hours and a Passenger Locator Form.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15341 on: August 31, 2021, 10:14:06 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 26, 2021, 01:50:38 PM
People here are very touchy about Florida. :57:


How much does all this focus on Florida ignore other states deserving of questions too?

Take Oregon, one of the most vaccinated states, yet their cases keep rising (see below). Even more newsworthy is how many “breakthrough” cases are occurring across Oregon. 60% of Covid cases at a recent outbreak at the Gateway Assisted Living Facility in Springfield Oregon were breakthrough cases.

How much is the CDC’s sudden push for Boosters every 5 to 8 months stemming from a reaction to avoid directly admitting an evidently decreasing effectiveness of the current roster of vaccines that were promoted as our final ticket past Covid? A population thus far only 50 or 60% onboard with getting initially vaccinated is now expected to face Boosters in perpetuity?






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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15342 on: August 31, 2021, 10:18:19 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 31, 2021, 10:14:06 AM

How much does all this focus on Florida ignore other states deserving of questions too?

Take Oregon, one of the most vaccinated states, yet their cases keep rising (see below). Even more newsworthy is how many “breakthrough” cases are occurring across Oregon. 60% of Covid cases at a recent outbreak at the Gateway Assisted Living Facility in Springfield Oregon were breakthrough cases.

How much is the CDC’s sudden push for Boosters every 5 to 8 months stemming from a reaction to avoid directly admitting an evidently decreasing effectiveness of the current roster of vaccines that were promoted as our final ticket past Covid? A population thus far only 50 or 60% onboard with getting initially vaccinated is now expected to face Boosters in perpetuity?





less than 60% of folks inside an assisted living fac vaccinated?
WTF?

Promoted as what???  I didn't read that from a credible source
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15343 on: August 31, 2021, 10:19:55 AM »
I always expected boosters in perpetuity.

What we're seeing being recommended right now isn't really a booster though, at least not by my own definition.  It isn't tailored to protect against new variants, it's just more of the same stuff that's proving to be less effective against the new variants.  

I guess "more is better" but there's not really any science behind it, other than some vague numbers that anything above 350 in the longterm antibody levels is considered sufficient for "prevention" and anything below likely isn't sufficient, which is why they're recommending a 3rd shot for Pfizer and Moderna folks.  And they're still not sure what to do with the J&J group of vaccinated people.

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