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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15232 on: August 25, 2021, 06:38:06 PM »
But hey, if it's fear of an even worse strain than Delta that's driving MDot to get vaccinated, that's all good too.  I wish there were more like him.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15233 on: August 25, 2021, 08:27:40 PM »
Florida is first state where deaths higher in this Covid wave than previous ones


Florida is first state where deaths higher in this Covid wave than previous ones

Jade Bremner
August 24, 2021, 7:37 AM·2 min read


Florida now has record numbers of Covid-19 cases and deaths, surpassing figures from other points in the pandemic.



According to John’s Hopkins data, in July 2020 cases peaked at around 11,870 and 185 deaths, over a seven-day average, then peaked again in January 2021 with 17,991 cases of Covid-19 and 175 deaths in a seven day period. On 23 August 2021, cases shot up to 37,685 and 297 deaths.


Florida is now the epicentre of the US’s coronavirus pandemic, as the country struggles to get a grip of the contagious Delta variant. According to data from the US Department of Health, ICU bed capacity currently sits at 93.2 per cent in Florida. States with low uptakes of the vaccine have been particularly harder hit by the Delta variant.


Governor Ron DeSantis issued an executive order in the state in July prohibiting mask mandates in schools. “The federal government has no right to tell parents that in order for their kids to attend school in person, they must be forced to wear a mask all day, every day,” said Mr DeSantis.


“We know that masks are a simple and effective way to help prevent virus spread, and from a medical perspective it makes absolutely zero sense to discourage their use,” Dr Bernard Ashby, head of Florida’s progressive Committee to Protect Health Care, told the Associated Press.


Mr DeSantis also said there could be financial ramifications for educators who enforce mask-wearing in schools, to which President Joe Biden responded: “If a governor wants to cut the pay of a hard-working education leader who requires masks in the classroom, the money from the American Rescue Plan can be used to pay that person’s salary.”


More than 70 “exhausted” doctors in Palm Beach County, Florida, gathered to tell press and the local community to get vaccinated on Monday. “The vaccine still remains the most effective and reliable way to stop this madness,” said infectious disease specialist Dr Leslie Diaz. “We are exhausted,” said internal medicine specialist Dr Rupesh Dharia. “Our patience and resources are running low, and we need your help.”


There have been a total of 3,071,489 Covid cases in Florida to date and 42,252 deaths as a result of the disease. More than 52 per cent of the state’s population has been fully vaccinated. According to the CDC, more than 50 per cent of the entire US population has been fully vaccinated.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15234 on: August 25, 2021, 08:50:25 PM »
He's a great governor, I've been told.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15235 on: August 25, 2021, 09:03:58 PM »
There are twenty other states that have a higher death per 1,000,000 pop then Florida

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15236 on: August 25, 2021, 09:07:26 PM »
The article is comparing present FL to past FL.  
The dead people can't read your post.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15237 on: August 25, 2021, 09:09:51 PM »
The article is comparing present FL to past FL. 
The dead people can't read your post.
youre such an ass 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15238 on: August 25, 2021, 09:16:31 PM »
I apologize.
So were you being optimistic with your post and suggesting things aren't so bad there?  Or were you trying to purposely deceive the reader by sharing a statistic that has nothing to do with what the article said?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15239 on: August 25, 2021, 09:23:59 PM »
Florida is first state where deaths higher in this Covid wave than previous ones


Florida is first state where deaths higher in this Covid wave than previous ones

Jade Bremner
August 24, 2021, 7:37 AM·2 min read


Florida now has record numbers of Covid-19 cases and deaths, surpassing figures from other points in the pandemic.



According to John’s Hopkins data, in July 2020 cases peaked at around 11,870 and 185 deaths, over a seven-day average, then peaked again in January 2021 with 17,991 cases of Covid-19 and 175 deaths in a seven day period. On 23 August 2021, cases shot up to 37,685 and 297 deaths.


Florida is now the epicentre of the US’s coronavirus pandemic, as the country struggles to get a grip of the contagious Delta variant. According to data from the US Department of Health, ICU bed capacity currently sits at 93.2 per cent in Florida. States with low uptakes of the vaccine have been particularly harder hit by the Delta variant.


Governor Ron DeSantis issued an executive order in the state in July prohibiting mask mandates in schools. “The federal government has no right to tell parents that in order for their kids to attend school in person, they must be forced to wear a mask all day, every day,” said Mr DeSantis.


“We know that masks are a simple and effective way to help prevent virus spread, and from a medical perspective it makes absolutely zero sense to discourage their use,” Dr Bernard Ashby, head of Florida’s progressive Committee to Protect Health Care, told the Associated Press.


Mr DeSantis also said there could be financial ramifications for educators who enforce mask-wearing in schools, to which President Joe Biden responded: “If a governor wants to cut the pay of a hard-working education leader who requires masks in the classroom, the money from the American Rescue Plan can be used to pay that person’s salary.”


More than 70 “exhausted” doctors in Palm Beach County, Florida, gathered to tell press and the local community to get vaccinated on Monday. “The vaccine still remains the most effective and reliable way to stop this madness,” said infectious disease specialist Dr Leslie Diaz. “We are exhausted,” said internal medicine specialist Dr Rupesh Dharia. “Our patience and resources are running low, and we need your help.”


There have been a total of 3,071,489 Covid cases in Florida to date and 42,252 deaths as a result of the disease. More than 52 per cent of the state’s population has been fully vaccinated. According to the CDC, more than 50 per cent of the entire US population has been fully vaccinated.

I guess you could somehow make an argument that this post isn’t totally political.  Maybe a weak one.

Quoting a flaming liberal from a liberal place like Newsweek though?

It’s as if you believe you can show correlation between the spike in Florida, that began long before Desantis’ executive order, and anything he has said or done.

Of course you can’t, because obviously- given Florida’s vaccination rate which is ( and was) in the better half ranking of the states.

But it makes for a good political narrative if that’s what your after.  I would wager though, that most here won’t sway from their position whatever it might be because it is so easy to see through this kind of crappy media stuff.

I definitely get the feeling the daily false narratives and attacks indicate some kind of fear of him.


« Last Edit: August 25, 2021, 09:29:28 PM by Honestbuckeye »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15240 on: August 25, 2021, 09:28:22 PM »
I apologize.
So were you being optimistic with your post and suggesting things aren't so bad there?  Or were you trying to purposely deceive the reader by sharing a statistic that has nothing to do with what the article said?
Well he is looking at the entire picture- as he should, as opposed to cherry picking liberal authors and combining them with unrelated political narratives. 

so for example- several of those Palm Beach medical folks have gone public and said the real issue is staff shortages- and was before the Delta spike. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15241 on: August 25, 2021, 09:40:42 PM »
I apologize.
So were you being optimistic with your post and suggesting things aren't so bad there?  Or were you trying to purposely deceive the reader by sharing a statistic that has nothing to do with what the article said?
ok I'll play


the article was comparing Florida to Florida which is kind of one sided

there isnt a state where this type of analysis would look good

second the number of positive cases really means little

the important stat has to do with deaths and ICU usage 

my point was that Florida still has a relatively low death count considering its population and the ICU usage is no where near as bad as previous periods of last summer and Dec to Jan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15242 on: August 25, 2021, 09:42:50 PM »
number of positive cases really means little

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15243 on: August 25, 2021, 10:57:51 PM »
Who said otherwise?
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longhorn, what I'm afraid of is that you're not taking into consideration that even an equal number of deaths now compared to last year is worse.  Why?  Some radical lefty narrative?  No, sorry.  Because of a plain, logical context:  all the people who died last year are gone.  All of the old people, fat people, etc.  
So those aren't the ones dying now, but there's as many or more dying now.......that's worse.  See?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15244 on: August 25, 2021, 11:09:52 PM »
Who said otherwise?
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longhorn, what I'm afraid of is that you're not taking into consideration that even an equal number of deaths now compared to last year is worse.  Why?  Some radical lefty narrative?  No, sorry.  Because of a plain, logical context:  all the people who died last year are gone.  All of the old people, fat people, etc. 
So those aren't the ones dying now, but there's as many or more dying now.......that's worse.  See?


It is. It’s horrible.  I have now been to several memorials, only recently.  It Sucks! Not vaccinated.

So what does this have to do with the government?  Vaccine rates are better than many, many states that have not seen the delta spikes. 

Before the spike in Delta started, and even now, there really is little in Florida much different as far as masks, what’s open, what’s closed, etc.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15245 on: August 25, 2021, 11:30:26 PM »
Who said otherwise?
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longhorn, what I'm afraid of is that you're not taking into consideration that even an equal number of deaths now compared to last year is worse.  Why?  Some radical lefty narrative?  No, sorry.  Because of a plain, logical context:  all the people who died last year are gone.  All of the old people, fat people, etc. 
So those aren't the ones dying now, but there's as many or more dying now.......that's worse.  See?


thats my point

the number of daily deaths is way lower then the last two surges

not saying any death is good but only the media plays up the case count but does not mention that ICU usage and the deaths have decreased a lot
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

 

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