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My wife's SIL is a nurse up in Oregon. Her husband (my wife's brother) is anti-mask, anti-vaccine, kinda anti-taking-COVID-seriously. 

She may lose her job as a result of refusing to get the vaccine. I believe OR just made it mandatory statewide that all healthcare workers be vaccinated.

Now, I can understand her not feeling like she needs it for herself. She's younger than us, she's in perfect health (and compared to us in even MUCH better shape, because she's a Crossfit junkie), and probably has no likelihood of even noticing a COVID infection...

I can also understand anger at a vaccine mandate... I clearly believe in vaccination, but I'd be pissed at California telling me I HAD TO get the shot even though I already supported doing it. I bristle at being told what to do, even if it's for my own good.

But her job is in a rheumatologist's office, which means that she's around immune compromised patients on a regular basis. If I was the doctor running that practice it *already* would have been my policy that my employees be vaccinated, to protect the patients that they see. Many of those patients, even if they have gotten the vaccine, may have conditions that make the vaccine less effective due to their own immune system shortcomings. She might not want the vaccine, but how would she feel if she ended up getting a COVID infection, passing it on to a vulnerable patient before she realized she had it, and then that patient died because he/she wasn't as young and healthy as she is?

Sometimes I just don't understand people. 

She may lose her job as a result of refusing to get the vaccine. I believe OR just made it mandatory statewide that all healthcare workers be vaccinated.

Sometimes I just don't understand people.

folks willing to lose their jobs must not value their job much or, they're just irrational 

My wife's SIL is a nurse up in Oregon. Her husband (my wife's brother) is anti-mask, anti-vaccine, kinda anti-taking-COVID-seriously.

She may lose her job as a result of refusing to get the vaccine. I believe OR just made it mandatory statewide that all healthcare workers be vaccinated.

Now, I can understand her not feeling like she needs it for herself. She's younger than us, she's in perfect health (and compared to us in even MUCH better shape, because she's a Crossfit junkie), and probably has no likelihood of even noticing a COVID infection...

I can also understand anger at a vaccine mandate... I clearly believe in vaccination, but I'd be pissed at California telling me I HAD TO get the shot even though I already supported doing it. I bristle at being told what to do, even if it's for my own good.

But her job is in a rheumatologist's office, which means that she's around immune compromised patients on a regular basis. If I was the doctor running that practice it *already* would have been my policy that my employees be vaccinated, to protect the patients that they see. Many of those patients, even if they have gotten the vaccine, may have conditions that make the vaccine less effective due to their own immune system shortcomings. She might not want the vaccine, but how would she feel if she ended up getting a COVID infection, passing it on to a vulnerable patient before she realized she had it, and then that patient died because he/she wasn't as young and healthy as she is?

Sometimes I just don't understand people.

I understand what you're saying, but what about the future?  We will never, ever get 100% vaccinated, even with mandates, laws, bribery (cash for vax), etc.  So chances are that this person who is immune-compromised will sooner or later bump up against somebody who is not vaxxed.  This stuff is never going away, and as we've seen break through infections are common.  

I just got an email that the guy that sit in the desk next to mine tested positive.  He's had both shots.  He says he's doing well, fever and headaches.  

I believe in personal freedom.  Time to move on with our lives, can't hide forever.  

You don't want to move to Austin.  Nobody here believes COVID is real.  You'd probably die in the first week or so.

folks willing to lose their jobs must not value their job much or, they're just irrational

You do realize people have certain reaction to not only food but meds right? I'm mean if you're already inoculated what's the worry,you should be grateful that herd is being thinned out.I know for a fact not group think that an individual did in fact die with hours of getting vaxed. I've taken every precaution sans the vax,has nothing to do with my IQ or where i attended school.Still wiping down surfaces in the car after shopping and the side door,not as vigilant as previouslythough. Also Big Pharma aren't libel so those people have no recourse who have had deadly reactions,hmm that's alright,frighten people who may have deadly symptoms not everyone is a rube or ill prepared