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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15092 on: August 20, 2021, 03:49:31 PM »
I like the Cowboys-  I have always liked Dak Prescott    He seems like a warrior with a great heart.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15093 on: August 20, 2021, 03:51:49 PM »
lots of examples.  this is just one.
Ha!  Fair enough.  I think I even remember reading that one, now that you mention it, and thinking it was a silly statement at the time.

So I'll admit I was wrong, such claims WERE made on this thread.  And I even read them, apparently.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15094 on: August 20, 2021, 03:54:14 PM »
lots of examples.  this is just one.
LOL youre actually using OAM as a source

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15095 on: August 20, 2021, 04:04:21 PM »
LOL youre actually using OAM as a source

man Im convinced

No, he's actually proven his point.  He said he'd heard from people on this thread, that there could be no possible eventual side effects.  And he was correct.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15096 on: August 20, 2021, 04:08:37 PM »
No, he's actually proven his point.  He said he'd heard from people on this thread, that there could be no possible eventual side effects.  And he was correct.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15097 on: August 20, 2021, 04:19:25 PM »
lots of examples.  this is just one.
he's not wrong
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15098 on: August 20, 2021, 04:25:34 PM »
he's not wrong
You Huskers are fierce    No give up. 

when I was a child my mother used to say “you would argue with Jesus and probably win“

And then she would say “shut up”
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15099 on: August 20, 2021, 04:28:47 PM »
he didn't say there was no potential long term effect

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15100 on: August 20, 2021, 04:37:09 PM »
That is “a” point.  Maybe that is “the most important “ point.  But that is a separate conversation completely from the topic I started with the article I attached.


I dreamed ( several times from several adamant fellow forum members) of reading here that there were not only no known potential side effects- but that the “ science” of the vaccines dictates that is not possible.

I’m not gonna waste anymore time on this and go back through the thread and show you but trust me it is there.  If the scientists are saying “the potential side effect that we see with the Moderna vaccine may be more frequent than we originally thought” then it proves the point.
Never did I or anyone else here say that benefits don’t outweigh the risks.  But I have again read several posts here indicating that there are no risks and never could be. 
I certainly have said nothing of the sort. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15101 on: August 20, 2021, 04:45:42 PM »
I certainly have said nothing of the sort.

No.  You do this weird thing called : presenting actual facts. 

It screws everything up.  What is your deal😜
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15102 on: August 20, 2021, 05:08:05 PM »
We've already seen some risks, apparently, the carditis.  Nobody with a brain would ever say a risk of a vaccine cannot possibly be anything but zero.

OAM merely noted that side effects usually manifest in 2 months or so, if there are any, and we've seen some, in 2-3 months.

I think it POSSIBLE a side effect could show up in 2 years, I don't think it's likely.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15103 on: August 20, 2021, 05:28:32 PM »
At least 33 of Nebraska’s nearly 200 federally licensed nursing homes have staff vaccination rates under 50%, federal figures show.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15104 on: August 20, 2021, 05:43:32 PM »
We've already seen some risks, apparently, the carditis.  Nobody with a brain would ever say a risk of a vaccine cannot possibly be anything but zero.

OAM merely noted that side effects usually manifest in 2 months or so, if there are any, and we've seen some, in 2-3 months.

I think it POSSIBLE a side effect could show up in 2 years, I don't think it's likely.


Yes- he did note that 2 month timeframe- which is generally very accurate.

But his statement starts with “never in the history “.  That renders the rest of it false, and hyperbole.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15105 on: August 20, 2021, 05:53:06 PM »
"Never in the history of vaccinations has a detrimental side effect "appeared" several years after its release.  The time for "wait and see" is about 2 months. "

I doubt this is true, but it isn't the same as claiming there can not possibly be a side effect from the vaccine.  Here is perhaps a more "authoritative" source:

Vaccines are highly unlikely to cause side effects long after getting the shot (nationalgeographic.com)

Vaccine Side Effects and Adverse Events | History of Vaccines




 

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