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Ok. 😂 I could say re-read this thread, but we will just let it go at that. ( there is nobody posting here that is authoritative). 
Everyone is in agreement that there are long term, unknown, POTENTIAL 
Side effects that could happen, and anyone claiming otherwise is full of shit? Right?

We also all have always agreed- benefits FAR outweigh the risks, which I have not seen debated here. 

haven't heard that from me

I have said that the risks for the vaccine are much less than the risks of the virus itself

Correct.  I haven’t heard that from you. Thanks 

unless they are just uneducated on the virus and the vaccine

a large group of those not vaccinated are simply ignorant or not good at math, risk reward, risk evaluation

There's potential unknown risk with walking outside your home to put out the trashcans. 

Statistically, there's no evidence that getting the vaccine, is any riskier, than putting out your trashcans.

So the point is, that people citing the potential unknown risks of the vaccine, as a reason for not getting it and instead taking the well-understood and thoroughly documented risk of actually getting COVID, are acting irrationally. 

That is “a” point.  Maybe that is “the most important “ point.  But that is a separate conversation completely from the topic I started with the article I attached.


I dreamed ( several times from several adamant fellow forum members) of reading here that there were not only no known potential side effects- but that the “ science” of the vaccines dictates that is not possible.

I’m not gonna waste anymore time on this and go back through the thread and show you but trust me it is there.  If the scientists are saying “the potential side effect that we see with the Moderna vaccine may be more frequent than we originally thought” then it proves the point.
Never did I or anyone else here say that benefits don’t outweigh the risks.  But I have again read several posts here indicating that there are no risks and never could be. 

Again here you keep going back to a tangent that’s not related to my point at all. It’s like that’s all you can say is if you’re saying don’t discuss the scientific risks that are being talked about and investigated.  The point you’re making is already university agreed-upon. This conversation has nothing to do with the risk benefits decision.  Nothing.
It is a conversation about just the risks and whether or not there is any or could be any ever going forward.

But you haven't cited any evidence for your position.  You keep assuring us "it's there" but you haven't cited it, and I at least, don't recall anyone making the assertion that there is zero chance that there could ever be any side effects from this vaccine, ever.  I just don't think anyone on this thread has ever made that statement.

So you should either support your argument, or drop it.  Because just saying "Yeah it's in there I know it is" simply isn't a compelling argument.

If you'd like to drop it, feel free-- but you're the one that brought it up in the first place, with no evidence to support your assertions.

did you not read the article?  It specifically discusses that they are looking at the data to understand if the existing risk (acknowledged) is worse than they originally thought.  That is all the support I need for my "argument"- that anyone who says there is no risk, and never could be- is not possibly correct. That is where the strawman is- not in my countering it. I shouldn't need evidence for something as obvious as that anyway.

I suspect the reason you don't remember seeing it is because it comes from members who I am guessing you like to immediately forget when you read what they post.

So... how bout those Cowboys....

HA!  


Could be.


And the Cowboys are gonna suck most likely.  Which I don't like, but most people in the USA are happy to see occur.

HA! 


Could be.


And the Cowboys are gonna suck most likely.  Which I don't like, but most people in the USA are happy to see occur.

it would cause me a bit of happiness