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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15036 on: August 18, 2021, 02:15:24 PM »
Yes, he did.

So--I wonder--why did he take the Regeneron treatment?
And why did he take the 3rd shot, to which he is not entitled.
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Guys like him, in both parties, illustrate what's wrong with our politics.
And, as I posted earlier, my governor is right there with him.
Not according to his own statement and countless news reports

He has chosen to get the Regeneron treatment out of caution

They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15037 on: August 18, 2021, 02:17:44 PM »
I'm not well versed on Regeneron, but is it available for the general public to use?  What types of red tape would need to be cut through for a normal person to get it?
Yes. It's been authorized by the FDA for use in treatment of COVID-positive patients to limit the severity of symptoms.  You need a doctor's prescription.

The risk has been low supply, but the docs I talked to about it said that so far none of their prescriptions have been turned down so supply seems to be holding up.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15038 on: August 18, 2021, 02:22:23 PM »
I don't know about being "entitled" to a 3rd shot or not, when it's the current CDC and FDA guidance.
Can you or I get a 3rd shot without lying about whether we have already been vaccinated?  If we can, that's a happy discovery, because my wife will get vaccinated tomorrow.

I read just today that the 3rd shot will be available on 20 September, perhaps earlier than that for immune-compromised people.

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As for the Regeneron, this is what the FDA says about it in their authorization for public use:

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-monoclonal-antibodies-treatment-covid-19


Abbott is 63, and due to his paralysis is likely to have multiple chronic underlying medical conditions.
I wasn't implying that he was not entitled to use Regeneron or that it was not medically appropriate for him to do so.
But I think that it's hypocritical that while he takes extra precautions for his own health, his EO has made it harder for local governments and other entities to take measures that seem appropriate for them.  In effect, he has downplayed the risk, as opposed to following the guidance of experts in the field.  But when he tests positive, his actions are not those of someone who thinks that Covid is just a minor threat.

There was this tweet from Abbott 2 days ago.

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Another standing room only event in Collin County tonight.

Thank y’all for the enthusiastic reception.

Let's keep this energy up and send a message that Texas values are NOT up for grabs in 2022.


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A bunch of mostly old folks there with virtually none of them wearing masks.  A potential super-spreader event in the making.

I'm not singling out Abbott.  As I said, my governor is doing much the same thing.  Maybe worse in some respects.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15039 on: August 18, 2021, 02:31:15 PM »
So it's your perception that taking an appropriately prescribed drug that is freely available to the public, belies his policy that local school districts should not be able to mandate masks.

But at the same time, his maskless appearance at a large gathering (while being fully vaccinated not twice but thrice) also runs counter to that stance?

I mean, I don't know what to make of those two opposing observations, but what I do know, is that it appears to be less about policy and more about your opinion regarding the political optics.

So once again, I'd invite you to take it to the other thread.

I'm about to start fumigating this one.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15040 on: August 18, 2021, 02:54:42 PM »
That's fine.  I will take no insult if you remove the offending post.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15041 on: August 18, 2021, 02:58:17 PM »
That's fine.  I will take no insult if you remove the offending post.
Nah i'll leave it up.

Unless someone else stumbles along and replies and decides to take it up a notch. :)

Overall I agree with your basic opinions on the policy, and I'll leave it at that.

If folks want to debate policy, and the resulting effects, that's a positive thing IMO.  I just don't see the need to bring in any of their assumptions regarding the political motivations behind the policies.  That's where we always get into trouble.

longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15042 on: August 18, 2021, 03:59:07 PM »
Nah i'll leave it up.

Unless someone else stumbles along and replies and decides to take it up a notch. :)

Overall I agree with your basic opinions on the policy, and I'll leave it at that.

If folks want to debate policy, and the resulting effects, that's a positive thing IMO.  I just don't see the need to bring in any of their assumptions regarding the political motivations behind the policies.  That's where we always get into trouble.
now I wonder just who that would be
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15043 on: August 19, 2021, 09:58:49 AM »
now I wonder just who that would be
there's no need to stir the pot
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15044 on: August 19, 2021, 10:21:25 AM »
Unfortunately I suspect we'll also see diminishing returns from the already-vaxed.  I'd be shocked if we get 100% "return customers" when it's their turn to get the booster.



100% agree.

At some point enough of the cooperating public will give up on added advisories and mandates when it comes to the continually moving yardstick of Covid reactions. First the boosters are offered to the immunocompromised. Soon followed by a school district or Tech Startup mandating boosters as a condition of employment. Larger and larger segments of the public will bewail a prospective reality of vaccine boosters in perpetuity.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15045 on: August 19, 2021, 10:28:46 AM »
hopefully it will turn out similar to the flu vaccine.  It's available for those that want it or need it.

not a big deal

but hospitalizations and deaths will need to come down
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15046 on: August 19, 2021, 10:29:18 AM »
there's no need to stir the pot
youre right 

we have you for that
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15047 on: August 19, 2021, 11:49:51 AM »
Spain - trending down
UK - cases dropped and may be edging higher
France - MIGHT be toppng out, as noted before
Sweden - nudging higher from low base

Florida - Hopefully has peaked, but not clear yet
Georgia - same situation, hopefully, not clear

India is hard for me to understand.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15048 on: August 19, 2021, 11:54:09 AM »
Texas still trending up but the rate seems to be slowing.  Hopefully we'll turn the corner soon.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15049 on: August 19, 2021, 12:02:11 PM »
hopefully it will turn out similar to the flu vaccine.  It's available for those that want it or need it.

not a big deal

but hospitalizations and deaths will need to come down

Not a big deal if made available to the public to volunteer for, exactly as the flu shot is made available.

But certainly a different story if boosters are mandated across various populations of employment or university study.

 

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