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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14742 on: August 10, 2021, 11:24:51 PM »
I have the feeling that in my district, if a few over-age, overweight, immune-system-compromised teachers die, that will be written off as the price of freedom by those who support state laws forbidding schools to require vaccines or masks, or to ask about vaccination status, and in effect make it impossible even to do contact-tracing.

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The question in response should have been, "OK--so where's the omelet?"
I think the question is why didnt the teacher get vaccinated

I cant even imagine what goes into a teacher's thinking who decides not to be vaccinated
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14743 on: August 10, 2021, 11:25:14 PM »
Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear is ordering that students and employees in the state’s schools wear masks indoors, as the fast-spreading delta variant of the coronavirus brings more infections and hospitalizations.

Beshear’s executive order issued Tuesday applies to everyone in Kentucky schools for kindergarten through 12th grade, regardless of vaccination status. He says the requirement also applies to child care and pre-kindergarten programs.

The governor says that “we are to the point where we cannot allow our kids to go into these buildings unprotected, unvaccinated and face this delta variant.”

Beshear said he wants to avoid schools shutting down in-person teaching and shifted to remote learning as occurred earlier in the pandemic.

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does the governor believe that masks will protect kids in those buildings??????  WTF? 

Apparently the governor does believe that, regardless of whether anyone agrees with him or not
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14744 on: August 10, 2021, 11:26:38 PM »
I think the question is why didnt the teacher get vaccinated

I cant even imagine what goes into a teacher's thinking who decides not to be vaccinated
Or- Is the belief that everybody wearing a mask would have prevented those teachers from dying. That is where the debate is but some come into the debate with a pre-assumed correct answer which is their personal belief. I won’t enter that debate because the data can be leveraged to support either position for some beautiful confirmation bias.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14745 on: August 11, 2021, 01:46:53 AM »
I think the question is why didnt the teacher get vaccinated

I cant even imagine what goes into a teacher's thinking who decides not to be vaccinated
Replace 'teacher' with 'person'.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14746 on: August 11, 2021, 06:31:39 AM »


So is the school district just being political here?  They're not harming any small businesses as far as I can tell.  So if it doesn't cost anyone a dollar, is this still radical lefty silliness? 

Or could they maybe sorta kinda be trying to keep people safe?
If they had brains, they would know that masks don't work, kids are not spreaders, and masks are harmful to kids.

How many times must these facts be pointed out to you? 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14747 on: August 11, 2021, 06:33:35 AM »
meaning we've been into this for over a year and we don't know if kids should wear masks at school
Yes, we do know, and they shouldn't, for reasons I've posted in the past.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14748 on: August 11, 2021, 06:35:58 AM »
Great take on it.  Hard to disagree.  The only thing you could do is take it one step further- at some juncture - is it the governments job to have that level of control? I don’t know the right answer.
certainly- I think a business has the right to require masks or vaccines- just as it’s clients and employees have the right to decide to work there or conduct business there.
it is tough for a school district because there isn’t much choice if there is a mandate, or if their isn’t and as a parent-if you want them. 
There should be no mandates at all. If a parent wants their child to wear one, then do it. If not, then don't.

Which is what Florida is saying. The issue is school districts making mandates. They should not, and Florida is trying to stop that.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14749 on: August 11, 2021, 06:38:16 AM »
Because they don't work. Because they cause anxiety. Because they limit social interaction.

But, mostly because they don't work.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14750 on: August 11, 2021, 06:47:27 AM »
U.S. Mask Companies Struggle to Compete with China - Washington latest


In Congress, a bill with bipartisan support would allocate $500 million in annual spending over the next three years to support domestic manufacturers of vital medical equipment.

While industry executives commend these moves, they say that time is running out. The American Mask Manufacturer’s Association, a recently created trade group, said its 27 members had already laid off 50 percent of their work force. Without concerted action from Washington, most of those companies will go belly up within the next two months.

An immediate boost, they say, would be to rescind the C.D.C. guidelines, born during the pandemic, that force health workers to repeatedly reuse N95 masks, even though they are designed to be thrown away after contact with each patient. Many hospitals are still following the guidelines, even though 260 million masks are gathering dust in warehouses across the country.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14751 on: August 11, 2021, 07:04:03 AM »
U.S. Mask Companies Struggle to Compete with China - Washington latest


In Congress, a bill with bipartisan support would allocate $500 million in annual spending over the next three years to support domestic manufacturers of vital medical equipment.

While industry executives commend these moves, they say that time is running out. The American Mask Manufacturer’s Association, a recently created trade group, said its 27 members had already laid off 50 percent of their work force. Without concerted action from Washington, most of those companies will go belly up within the next two months.

An immediate boost, they say, would be to rescind the C.D.C. guidelines, born during the pandemic, that force health workers to repeatedly reuse N95 masks, even though they are designed to be thrown away after contact with each patient. Many hospitals are still following the guidelines, even though 260 million masks are gathering dust in warehouses across the country.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14752 on: August 11, 2021, 08:06:33 AM »
UK and Spain trending down, France may be starting down.  I hope.  Some of this could reflect people taking more care about them, going out less often, distancing, maybe even mask wearing.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14753 on: August 11, 2021, 09:06:16 AM »
I think the question is why didnt the teacher get vaccinated

I cant even imagine what goes into a teacher's thinking who decides not to be vaccinated
well, people that get vaccinated are getting sick and probably dying
school aged kids are getting sick more from the delta variant
the unanswered question is how many cracked eggs is a few?  how good was the omelet? 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14754 on: August 11, 2021, 09:36:25 AM »
GENEVA — The World Health Organization says it will soon test three drugs used for other diseases to see if they might help patients sickened by the coronavirus.

In a statement on Wednesday, the U.N. health agency says the three drugs would be adopted into the next phase of its ongoing global research into identifying potential treatments for COVID-19. The drugs were chosen by an independent panel based on the likelihood they could prevent deaths in people hospitalized for coronavirus.

They include artesunate, a malaria drug, the cancer drug imatinib, and infliximab, currently used in people with diseases of the immune system.

WHO’s ongoing study into COVID-19 treatments previously assessed four drugs. Among its findings, the agency determined that remdesivir and hydroxychloroquine didn’t help people hospitalized with the virus. WHO’s research includes thousands of researchers in hundreds of hospitals in 52 countries.

“Finding more effective and accessible therapeutics for COVID-19 patients remains a critical need,” says WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14755 on: August 11, 2021, 10:05:18 AM »
Replace 'teacher' with 'person'.
we are talking about masking up in grade schools so I'll just keep the word teacher

the kids dont get vaccinated cause its not allowed
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