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Hawkinole · « **Reply #14672 on:** August 10, 2021, 02:29:15 AM »

Last week my administrative assistant took Wed. Th and Fr off. Tried to line up my former admin asst. She was not feeling well, nor was her DH, and she is pregnant. Monday my former asst. reported she tested positive for the virus, as did her DH. She was vaccine hesitant due to a challenging pregnancy. I understand that. Why he didn't protect her and her fetus, I have no idea. There is a lot of stupidity out there.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #14673 on:** August 10, 2021, 06:12:40 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 09, 2021, 11:03:38 PM

How does forbidding mask mandates in local communities or schools make sense?

It makes total sense for those who believe the government is of the people and for the people, and therefore parents get to choose.
while that may seem outlandish- it is a basic and foundational principle of the constitution.

It is easy to understand for those who watch TV and see that choice being afforded to those who make the policy.

Lastly, the Science- data shows the lack of need for children to mask up as well as the harm it does.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #14674 on:** August 10, 2021, 06:21:20 AM »

Quote from: Hawkinole on August 10, 2021, 02:29:15 AM

Last week my administrative assistant took Wed. Th and Fr off. Tried to line up my former admin asst. She was not feeling well, nor was her DH, and she is pregnant. Monday my former asst. reported she tested positive for the virus, as did her DH. She was vaccine hesitant due to a challenging pregnancy. I understand that. Why he didn't protect her and her fetus, I have no idea. There is a lot of stupidity out there.

I posted a similar situation a few days back. A female executive where I work is pregnant and decided to not get vaccinated. Her husband did get vaccinated.
Her physician told her that somewhere between 30 and 40% of her current pregnant patients are vaccinated and the remainder chose not to.

Their primary reasoning is the unknown long-term potential effects of the vaccination. He tested positive last week so they are isolating from each other

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #14675 on:** August 10, 2021, 06:34:58 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on August 09, 2021, 10:58:08 PM

EXPLAINER: How do border policies affect US infection rates?

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-health-immigration-coronavirus-pandemic-174e424da1eb061d8b8bd53a7192611b

seems reasonable

I have read this and similar articles

The troubling piece is that it does not address several critical things:

- the number being let through who are NOT vaccinated ( it talks about those who do or don’t test positive)
- the number who get through undetected ( have seen estimates of 1500-2000 per day) When added to the number who are released to “relatives and supporters” or who are released to return for a court date , you now have 40,000 to 50,000 per month coming in- nearly all unvaccinated.

The article seems to address a straw man claim that the border surge is the CAUSE of the spike in Delta cases. The article’s primary point is to disprove that.

But nobody ( to my knowledge) has made that claim. The complaint is- when the policy is letting thousands of unvaccinated people come in-how is their any credibility in forcing US Citizens already here, to vaccinate or to wear masks.

That seems like a very reasonable question- if not criticism of current policy.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #14676 on:** August 10, 2021, 06:37:15 AM »

Breakthrough Covid cases: Why fully vaccinated people can get Covid (cnbc.com)

Cincydawg · « **Reply #14677 on:** August 10, 2021, 06:38:34 AM »

News from Europe is still pretty good, peaking or falling now.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #14678 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:09:17 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 09, 2021, 11:03:38 PM

How does forbidding mask mandates in local communities or schools make sense?

Because they don't work. Because they cause anxiety. Because they limit social interaction.

But, mostly because they don't work.

FearlessF · « **Reply #14679 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:09:40 AM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on August 09, 2021, 11:39:25 PM

what if there are 8 fully vaccinated and 2 not vaccinated

should all 10 be required to wear a mask

in my daughter's place of work, unvaccinated employees wear a mask and have their temp taken each day

most unvaccinated of course do not like this and think unfair

everyone has choices

FearlessF · « **Reply #14680 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:14:49 AM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 10, 2021, 06:34:58 AM

I have read this and similar articles

The troubling piece is that it does not address several critical things:

- the number being let through who are NOT vaccinated ( it talks about those who do or don’t test positive)
- the number who get through undetected ( have seen estimates of 1500-2000 per day) When added to the number who are released to “relatives and supporters” or who are released to return for a court date , you now have 40,000 to 50,000 per month coming in- nearly all unvaccinated.

The article seems to address a straw man claim that the border surge is the CAUSE of the spike in Delta cases. The article’s primary point is to disprove that.

But nobody ( to my knowledge) has made that claim. The complaint is- when the policy is letting thousands of unvaccinated people come in-how is their any credibility in forcing US Citizens already here, to vaccinate or to wear masks.

That seems like a very reasonable question- if not criticism of current policy.

true and true

in my opinion the article makes a little sense, 40,000 per month is not the cause of the surge
the issue of allowing thousands of unvaccinated in and forcing tens of millions of citizens is two different issues

similar to trying to tie together homeless vets and illegal aliens and who should get beds - not really related

FearlessF · « **Reply #14681 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:16:58 AM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 10, 2021, 06:21:20 AM

I posted a similar situation a few days back. A female executive where I work is pregnant and decided to not get vaccinated. Her husband did get vaccinated.
Her physician told her that somewhere between 30 and 40% of her current pregnant patients are vaccinated and the remainder chose not to.

Their primary reasoning is the unknown long-term potential effects of the vaccination. He tested positive last week so they are isolating from each other

did her physician also explain to her the very very slim likelihood of ANY long term potential effects?

847badgerfan · « **Reply #14682 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:18:57 AM »

I'm going to Chicago this week, and I'll need to wear a mask on the plane for 6 hours (including airport time).

I will then feel like shit on both ends of the trip. For something that doesn't work.

Just cancelled the October trip. Too much of a hassle to go up there.

The airports all have marks on the floor, asking us to social distance. And then, they allow you to board a packed airplane. And then, they ask you to social distance in baggage claim. It's all a crock, and all about control.

The most annoying/maddening thing?

Listening to the airport recording/flight attendants talk about how "Federal Law requires wearing a mask at all times."

So, it's a LAW? I guess I missed the house and senate votes on that.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #14683 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:28:30 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on August 10, 2021, 08:16:58 AM

did her physician also explain to her the very very slim likelihood of ANY long term potential effects?

She says yes. Just for point of reference- this is a VERY pro vaccine- pro mask person

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #14684 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:32:28 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 10, 2021, 08:09:17 AM

Because they don't work. Because they cause anxiety. Because they limit social interaction.

But, mostly because they don't work.

The masks I recently purchased( you know/ the blue medical looking ones you see a ton of), say right on the box they are not intended to protect from disease or illness, and should be disposed after each use.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #14685 on:** August 10, 2021, 09:36:35 AM »

SMDH.

This is the kind of error that is causing people to cancel travel plans to Disney, @utee94 .

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