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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14616 on: August 07, 2021, 12:19:25 PM »
HOPEFULLY this is the peak here.

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« Reply #14617 on: August 07, 2021, 12:21:44 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14618 on: August 07, 2021, 01:56:59 PM »
There's a growing number of people on a Longhorn message board I frequent, that are going in for a 3rd shot, a booster.  They're either lying, or the places just aren't asking about their previous history.

It's not FDA approved and it's not CDC recommended yet, although there are some studies indicating it might provide some benefit.  

So... what are our feelings on this?  I'm mixed, I admit.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14619 on: August 07, 2021, 02:02:21 PM »
I have thought about it myself if I knew they otherwise would go to waste.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14620 on: August 07, 2021, 02:04:20 PM »
As many of us have said, the mark of severity is how many go to the hospital.  If you have a lot of mild cases, it's not nearly as bad.  I hope the story is that a lot of folks are getting it in a very mild form.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14621 on: August 07, 2021, 02:05:47 PM »
I think that's mostly the case. Hospitalizations are up here, but ICU beds are plentiful (so far).

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14622 on: August 07, 2021, 02:07:04 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 07, 2021, 02:02:21 PM
I have thought about it myself if I knew they otherwise would go to waste.
I have my annual physical in October. If my doctor says do it, I certainly will.

We are going to Europe in November (I hope??).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14623 on: August 07, 2021, 02:08:29 PM »
I just got my second pneumonia shot.  My arm was quite sore for a couple days.  Didn't expect that, did not feel fatigued though.

I suspect we'll hear clearance for a third shot in a couple months for a portion of the population (geezers).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14624 on: August 07, 2021, 02:11:28 PM »
Our ICU beds are running short, but a lot of it is non-COVID.  Unlike  year ago when a lot of people were staying largely at home or at least minimizing their outings, now folks are out and about, getting in car wrecks and other stuff, filling up the ICUs.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14625 on: August 07, 2021, 02:14:48 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 07, 2021, 02:07:04 PM
I have my annual physical in October. If my doctor says do it, I certainly will.

We are going to Europe in November (I hope??).

Doctors aren't recommending it now, because it's not FDA approved.  If/when it does become FDA approved, that's when we'll see what doctors are recommending.

Like CD said, I expect they'll recommend for the older population.  Not sure about younger folks.


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« Reply #14626 on: August 07, 2021, 02:46:57 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 07, 2021, 02:14:48 PM
Doctors aren't recommending it now, because it's not FDA approved.  If/when it does become FDA approved, that's when we'll see what doctors are recommending.

Like CD said, I expect they'll recommend for the older population.  Not sure about younger folks.



Down here, the original vaccines were open to 65+ pretty early on, right after front liners all got theirs.

Then in mid-March it opened for anyone 50+. I got mine on the first day it opened up, and I would do it again without hesitation.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14627 on: August 07, 2021, 02:53:33 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 07, 2021, 02:46:57 PM
Down here, the original vaccines were open to 65+ pretty early on, right after front liners all got theirs.

Then in mid-March it opened for anyone 50+. I got mine on the first day it opened up, and I would do it again without hesitation.

I'm fine with getting a booster once it's approved and my doctor recommends.  What I'm not sure of, is about going rogue and getting it now.

I'm not sure the science is there yet.  I've seen the studies that show increased antibodies after a booster, which of course makes sense.  You could get 5 boosters and I'd expect antibodies to increase after each one.

What I don't really know, though, is about OUTCOMES.  Are they improved with boosters?  Is the improvement statistically significant?  There might be studies out there that show this, I haven't seen one but also haven't looked too hard.

I just feel like a lot of people are falling into a "more must be better trap" without really evaluating if the outcomes are significantly improved.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14628 on: August 07, 2021, 02:58:03 PM »
Agreed.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14629 on: August 07, 2021, 03:01:44 PM »
On surlyhorns, the people who are going rogue and getting the 3rd shot, are also many of the same people that lied about their health conditions in order to jump the line and get the first shot early.  They're this almost militant group of folks, sort of the anti-anti-vaxers.

Not sure why people feel like they must be so extreme on both sides.  It's weird to me.
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