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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14350 on: July 21, 2021, 02:45:07 PM »
FL is at 72 percent fully vaccinated for age 40 and up. It's at 82 percent for 60+.

It's the <40 that are hesitating.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14351 on: July 21, 2021, 02:48:59 PM »
I'm sure it's out there somewhere. I'll poke around and see.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14352 on: July 22, 2021, 09:23:54 AM »
China cannot accept the World Health Organization’s plan for the second phase of a study into the origins of COVID-19, a senior Chinese health official said Thursday.

Zeng Yixin, the vice minister of the National Health Commission, said he was “rather taken aback” that the plan includes further investigation of the theory that the virus might have leaked from a Chinese lab.

He dismissed the lab leak idea as a rumor that runs counter to common sense and science.

“It is impossible for us to accept such an origin-tracing plan,” he said at a news conference called to address the COVID-19 origins issue.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14353 on: July 22, 2021, 09:37:37 AM »
My aunt and her beau are dealing with COVID.  She won't take the vaccine despite losing her brother, my dad, to covid.  She was pretty sick for 3-4 days and had to be hospitalized.  From what I understand her boyfriend is still in the hospital.  She's early 70's he's mid 70's.  


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14355 on: July 22, 2021, 05:47:09 PM »
Is the vertical axis days from start?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14356 on: July 22, 2021, 05:51:03 PM »
Yes.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14357 on: July 22, 2021, 05:52:54 PM »
I'm surprised at the number of known cases that grew over the second time frame.  Am I correct that the apparent death rate is about 1% in the second wave?  And far lower in the third?


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14359 on: July 22, 2021, 06:00:05 PM »
A little surprised by the case rates the second time as well. 

Given vaccination, you wouldn't expect case rates to go as high--but then again during the second wave there was probably a lot more of a lockdown and more careful behavior. During the third wave people are probably mostly going about their lives more normally. 

I think the idea is that because the most vulnerable people are the ones most likely to get vaccinated, that the people who are contributing all these new cases are much less likely to die from it.

I tried to click the source link (got this graphic from a different site), but it seemed to be paywalled and I just didn't want to mess with it.

It's here if anyone wants to read it: https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2021/07/how-uk-s-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-has-dramatically-reduced-deaths


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14360 on: July 22, 2021, 06:51:39 PM »
"I think the idea is that because the most vulnerable people are the ones most likely to get vaccinated, that the people who are contributing all these new cases are much less likely to die from it."


That makes sense to me, the younger invulnerables are catching it, but rarely dying.  US hosp rates are climbing.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14361 on: July 22, 2021, 07:42:12 PM »
"I think the idea is that because the most vulnerable people are the ones most likely to get vaccinated, that the people who are contributing all these new cases are much less likely to die from it."


That makes sense to me, the younger invulnerables are catching it, but rarely dying.  US hosp rates are climbing.
Well apparently the UK is doing better about getting their oldest and most vulnerable people vaccinated than we are:




https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833

I don't think we've quite done as well in the US... We have a decent population of older people who don't trust or haven't gotten the vaccine.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14362 on: July 23, 2021, 07:45:57 AM »
Pretty amazing numbers here. 97 percent of all Covid deaths in the US were complicated by 2 or more underlying conditions. 25 percent had 10 (!!!) or more.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14363 on: July 23, 2021, 08:05:37 AM »
Pretty amazing numbers here. 97 percent of all Covid deaths in the US were complicated by 2 or more underlying conditions. 25 percent had 10 (!!!) or more.


My question here is always the same: how broad a category are “underlying conditions”?

We can throw it around, but without some actual knowledge of the list, it might mean something or it might mean little to nothing. Like, is being “overweight” a condition? If so, it’s a pretty low bar, relatively.

 

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