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847badgerfan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14252 on: July 12, 2021, 12:46:51 PM »
There is no hard proof that wearing a mask prevents spread. Especially if you use the same one several times, and if you sweat (we all do). Lots of adults got pimples for the first time since they were in high school.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14253 on: July 12, 2021, 10:15:20 PM »
U.S. regulators on Monday added a new warning to Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine about links to a rare and potentially dangerous neurological reaction, but said it’s not entirely clear the shot caused the problem.

The Food and Drug Administration announced the new warning, flagging reports of Guillain-Barre syndrome, an immune system disorder that can causes muscle weakness and occasionally paralysis. Health officials described the side effect as a “small possible risk” for those getting the shot.

The action comes after the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reviewed reports of about 100 people developing the syndrome after receiving the one-dose vaccine. Almost all of were hospitalized and one person died, the FDA said.

Guillain-Barre syndrome occurs when the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks some of its nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis that typically is temporary. An estimated 3,000 to 6,000 people develop the syndrome each year, according to the CDC.

The number of cases reported in connection with J&J’s vaccine represents a tiny fraction of the nearly 13 million Americans who have received the one-dose shot. Most cases were reported in men — many 50 years old and up — and usually about two weeks after vaccination.


https://apnews.com/article/business-science-health-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-8c7e69806af9b0fe3b158382b2f57c4f
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14254 on: July 13, 2021, 01:15:05 AM »
There is no hard proof that wearing a mask prevents spread. Especially if you use the same one several times, and if you sweat (we all do). Lots of adults got pimples for the first time since they were in high school.
Why does your dentist wear a mask? 
Why does your surgeon wear a mask?
If masks are futile why were nurses and physicians wearing them in COVID wards?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14255 on: July 13, 2021, 01:25:43 AM »
U.S. regulators on Monday added a new warning to Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine about links to a rare and potentially dangerous neurological reaction, but said it’s not entirely clear the shot caused the problem.



https://apnews.com/article/business-science-health-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-8c7e69806af9b0fe3b158382b2f57c4f
Traditional type vaccines for the flu also carry with them a very tiny risk of Guillain-Barre syndrome. Johnson & Johnson produced a vaccine in the traditional manner, i.e. not an MRNA vaccine. The warning should have been added when the vaccine was produced. I am not sure if 100 out of 12.8 million doses, which is the reported risk, is of much concern considering the background is 1 in 100,000 contract the syndrome each year. Guillain-Barré Syndrome Fact Sheet | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (nih.gov) So 1 in 128,000 people receiving the J & J vaccine contracted Guillain-Barre, while 1 in 100,000 will contract it each year. I would have to rely on Medina Buckeye to explain these statistics to me, but it doesn't seem like the risk is much greater, if it is even any greater, amongst J & J vaccine recipients. 
But legally it should be warned about, and should have been part of the warning from the outset.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14256 on: July 13, 2021, 02:17:22 AM »
There is no hard proof that wearing a mask prevents spread. 
Sigh.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14257 on: July 13, 2021, 07:55:00 AM »
There is no hard proof that wearing a mask prevents spread. Especially if you use the same one several times, and if you sweat (we all do). Lots of adults got pimples for the first time since they were in high school.
Take a shot of jim beam before you put the mask on seems to work.A friend went to see see a DR for his shoulder and the guy told him a mask is like a chain link fence put up to stop mosquitos.Being facetious prolly
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14258 on: July 13, 2021, 08:15:46 AM »
Why does your dentist wear a mask?
Why does your surgeon wear a mask?
If masks are futile why were nurses and physicians wearing them in COVID wards?
In Covid wards, doctors and nurses are wearing N95's, properly fit for them.

Surgeons and dentists wear them to prevent droplets from entering a body's compromised situation.

Surgical masks are not effective for reducing Covid transmission.

How about this:




Infographic - Understanding the Difference, Surgical Mask, N95 Respirator (cdc.gov)



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14259 on: July 13, 2021, 09:31:10 AM »
Why does your dentist wear a mask?
Why does your surgeon wear a mask?


So they don't spit in your mouth or open wounds while they're working on you?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14260 on: July 13, 2021, 09:38:53 AM »
so the hygienist doesn't get debris in her mouth

wears safety glasses so crap doesn't get in her eyes 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14261 on: July 13, 2021, 11:05:39 AM »
so the hygienist doesn't get debris in her mouth

wears safety glasses so crap doesn't get in her eyes
Yup, that too.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14262 on: July 13, 2021, 11:11:48 AM »
Take a shot of jim beam before you put the mask on seems to work.A friend went to see see a DR for his shoulder and the guy told him a mask is like a chain link fence put up to stop mosquitos.Being facetious prolly
and if it doesnt who cares
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14263 on: July 13, 2021, 11:17:07 AM »
if it doesn't, keep repeating until it does
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14264 on: July 13, 2021, 07:02:21 PM »
Take a shot of jim beam before you put the mask on seems to work.A friend went to see see a DR for his shoulder and the guy told him a mask is like a chain link fence put up to stop mosquitos.Being facetious prolly
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14265 on: July 13, 2021, 07:04:31 PM »
pretty much everything is a little questionable

no sense taking chances
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