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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14168 on: July 07, 2021, 05:19:34 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14169 on: July 08, 2021, 10:23:23 AM »
New cases ticking up here, but still moving along at a slower clip on the vaccines. 58% of the population has had it. 11% of the population has had Covid.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14170 on: July 08, 2021, 11:25:16 AM »
Cases are irrelevant now.  Vaccinated people can still breathe in the virus, still produce an immune response, and still test positive for it, even though they don't get sick and are highly unlikely to spread it. 

Now, the only meaningful metrics, are hospitalizations/ICU/deaths.

On that note, here in my county, hospitalization admits are rising slightly.  That's what is worrisome.  Unfortunately they don't publish data on what% of those people are vaccinated.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14171 on: July 08, 2021, 11:37:26 AM »
Cases are irrelevant now.  Vaccinated people can still breathe in the virus, still produce an immune response, and still test positive for it, even though they don't get sick and are highly unlikely to spread it.

Now, the only meaningful metrics, are hospitalizations/ICU/deaths.

On that note, here in my county, hospitalization admits are rising slightly.  That's what is worrisome.  Unfortunately they don't publish data on what% of those people are vaccinated.
While obviously that's true of your county, we're seeing more and more places that are releasing data on this and deaths are almost universally in the unvaccinated. 

For example, Maryland just released that 100% of all COVID deaths in June were unvaccinated, and 93% of all hospitalizations were...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/covid-maryland-unvaccinated-cases-deaths/2021/07/06/400bf08a-de86-11eb-ae31-6b7c5c34f0d6_story.html

For the deaths, it's not huge numbers... Daily average for June was <10/day. I'm just looking at the Worldometers and back of the envelope suggests about 5 per day, or ~150 deaths in the month of June. But every one of those was unvaccinated... 

Maryland has a little over 50% vaccination at this point, so that's a pretty compelling stat in my mind. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14172 on: July 08, 2021, 11:44:46 AM »
While obviously that's true of your county, we're seeing more and more places that are releasing data on this and deaths are almost universally in the unvaccinated.

For example, Maryland just released that 100% of all COVID deaths in June were unvaccinated, and 93% of all hospitalizations were...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/covid-maryland-unvaccinated-cases-deaths/2021/07/06/400bf08a-de86-11eb-ae31-6b7c5c34f0d6_story.html

For the deaths, it's not huge numbers... Daily average for June was <10/day. I'm just looking at the Worldometers and back of the envelope suggests about 5 per day, or ~150 deaths in the month of June. But every one of those was unvaccinated...

Maryland has a little over 50% vaccination at this point, so that's a pretty compelling stat in my mind.

Yes, I'm speaking only for the Austin area.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14173 on: July 08, 2021, 12:01:02 PM »
I think new case numbers are still relevant as an early indicator, they just aren't completely definitive (never have been).


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14174 on: July 08, 2021, 12:01:46 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14175 on: July 08, 2021, 12:03:48 PM »
I think utee is correct

hospitalizations and deaths is much more important

so fat even with a slight uptick in cases deaths remain low
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14176 on: July 08, 2021, 12:07:08 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14177 on: July 08, 2021, 12:09:45 PM »
I agree hospitalizations is probably the most important metric, but it's a trailing indicator.  New cases is a leading indicator when we compare with data over time.  If you see an uptick in new cases, you almost certainly can expect hospitalizations to follow in 2-3 weeks.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14178 on: July 08, 2021, 12:10:01 PM »
The delta variant accounts for more than 51 percent of new COVID-19 infections in the country, according to CDC estimates.

New infections and hospitalizations have increased in recent weeks as the delta variant spreads. Nearly 16,000 new coronavirus cases were detected in Florida last week, a 35 percent increase over the week before. Florida also saw 1,963 new hospitalizations from June 27 to July 4, an increase of 18 percent.


As more and more elderly residents are vaccinated, fatalities due to the coronavirus continue to fall, with 213 new deaths recorded in Florida in the past week, down from 280 per week early last month.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14179 on: July 08, 2021, 12:12:52 PM »
I agree hospitalizations is probably the most important metric, but it's a trailing indicator.  New cases is a leading indicator when we compare with data over time.  If you see an uptick in new cases, you almost certainly can expect hospitalizations to follow in 2-3 weeks.


Im not sure that will be the fact with the vaccinations affecting the reaction of testing positive
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14180 on: July 08, 2021, 12:21:17 PM »
Japan has stated they will ban spectators at the Olympics

This is a direct result of a low vaccination rate 21%


This seems very out of character for them
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14181 on: July 08, 2021, 12:31:47 PM »
I am pretty sure where we see a significant increase in positive tests, we'll see hospitalizations go up in 2-3 weeks, without exception.


 

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