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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Hawkinole

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14140 on: June 29, 2021, 01:51:33 AM »
Yup my wife is a PT.  Her clinic shut down for about 6 weeks in March/April of last year while everyone was trying to figure out how bad this pandemic might be, but then they went back face-to-face for 8 hours per day 5 days per week from then, on.  They had a couple of students doing rotations in their clinic and they came back, as well.

Interesting. Did any staff / students test + ?
At my daughter's clinical internship in Tucson in January/February 2021, she received an early vaccination late January and fully in February. It was a hospital setting which had COVID PT patients, but she did not knowingly administer to them. She recounted she was helping someone not in the COVID unit, and she had an N-95 mask, as did her instructor, but my daughter was on the front end, and instructor behind the patient. The patient later tested + for COVID-19. My daughter didn't get it, but her clinical instructor had a break-through infection. The clinical instructor also administered to patients in the COVID unit wearing more PPE.
I think my daughter, as likely as not, contracted the virus in Dubuque before her clinical in Tucson. She was working her way through college at a large convenience store in Dubuque, contact with many customers, and it spread like wildfire amongst co-workers; some of her classmates also had it, and she was exposed in close quarters. I encouraged her to test, but she refused because if she tested - even if negative - the school would not let her in for two weeks. Crazy policy.
Forty percent of positives are estimated to be asymptomatic - I had it - I am no spring chicken - I was asymptomatic. Our 90-year old former neighbor contracted it in the nursing home and we were so worried, and went to her window, and she was asymptomatic, while we saw someone in a neighboring window to our right having trouble breathing. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14141 on: June 29, 2021, 01:57:39 AM »
No staff or patients or students got it or transmitted it at my wife's clinic, as far as we know.  All staff and patients were required to wear masks-- but especially early on, those were mostly cloth masks and we all know those serve only to stop spit droplets, but wouldn't stop the virus in normal respiration.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14142 on: June 29, 2021, 11:37:26 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14143 on: June 29, 2021, 11:52:22 AM »
No staff or patients or students got it or transmitted it at my wife's clinic, as far as we know.  All staff and patients were required to wear masks-- but especially early on, those were mostly cloth masks and we all know those serve only to stop spit droplets, but wouldn't stop the virus in normal respiration.

My MIL is also a PT, and she got COVID from her workplace back in December, masks and all. She was surprised that it took as long as it did for her to get it. 

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« Reply #14144 on: June 29, 2021, 12:35:37 PM »
My MIL is also a PT, and she got COVID from her workplace back in December, masks and all. She was surprised that it took as long as it did for her to get it.
I suppose it's possible she or others at her clinic got it and were asymptomatic.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14145 on: June 29, 2021, 01:15:32 PM »
The wife and I did about 3 months of PT after our shoulder surgeries late 2020.  The therapist said they had had no cases reported.

The wife said the Delta variant is starting to jump up in France now.

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« Reply #14146 on: June 29, 2021, 01:33:07 PM »
Apparently the delta variant has been seen in Long Beach, and they're recommending masks indoors for everyone.

One of the doctors at my wife's office says she thinks this is going to lead to lockdowns. 

I'm not sure I buy it. Everything I've found publicly says that there is slightly more risk of breakthrough infection with delta for vaccinated individuals, but not that there is a corresponding much higher risk of hospitalization/death if you're vaccinated. 

I don't think anyone in this country is going to accept a "precautionary" lockdown, but if cases and deaths spike hard within vaccinated individuals that might change.

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« Reply #14147 on: June 29, 2021, 01:55:04 PM »
It is now the most prevalent variant in Florida.

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« Reply #14148 on: June 29, 2021, 02:21:41 PM »
Apparently the delta variant has been seen in Long Beach, and they're recommending masks indoors for everyone.

One of the doctors at my wife's office says she thinks this is going to lead to lockdowns.

I'm not sure I buy it. Everything I've found publicly says that there is slightly more risk of breakthrough infection with delta for vaccinated individuals, but not that there is a corresponding much higher risk of hospitalization/death if you're vaccinated.

I don't think anyone in this country is going to accept a "precautionary" lockdown, but if cases and deaths spike hard within vaccinated individuals that might change.

Yeah, precautionary lockdowns and even forced distancing and/or mask ordinances are going to get laughed at and ignored by the majority.

And cases are not an acceptable measure either.

If hospitalizations/ICU/death begin increasing within the VACCINATED population, then and only then would anyone bother listening.

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« Reply #14149 on: June 29, 2021, 02:30:22 PM »
MOSCOW — Russian health officials have approved booster shots for those vaccinated against COVID-19 six months after their first dose.

On Tuesday, 20,616 new infections were registered and 652 deaths — the highest daily death toll in the pandemic.

Russia’s health minister Mikhail Murashko told a government meeting Tuesday the ministry has updated its vaccination guidelines. It allows those who contracted the coronavirus to get vaccinated six months after they recovered and those who have been immunized to get booster shots six months after their first vaccination.

Russia’s state coronavirus task force has been reporting more than 20,000 new infections daily since last Thursday, more than double the average in early June.


https://apnews.com/article/russia-europe-middle-east-lifestyle-travel-406871e27cca483519cce7240b3165ee
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14150 on: June 30, 2021, 02:50:37 AM »
Doesn't Russia, which is using vaccine diplomacy, have a domestic vaccination rate that is low?

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« Reply #14152 on: June 30, 2021, 09:17:20 AM »
Russia registered the first Covid vaccine. Now it's struggling to vaccinate its population. (nbcnews.com)
Russia registered the first Covid vaccine. Now it's struggling to vaccinate its population. (nbcnews.com)

14% vaccinated,  I'm not sure I'd take that one anyway.  Would be a tough choice.

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« Reply #14153 on: June 30, 2021, 03:25:54 PM »
With the Delta variant accounting for more than a quarter of Covid-19 cases, there could soon be "two Americas" -- one where most people are vaccinated and another where low vaccination rates could lead to case spikes, Dr. Anthony Fauci warned.

The stark disparity between places with low and high vaccination rates is something Fauci is "very concerned about," he told CNN on Tuesday.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/30/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html

"When you have such a low level of vaccination superimposed upon a variant that has a high degree of efficiency of spread, what you are going to see among undervaccinated regions -- be that states, cities or counties -- you're going to see these individual types of blips," he said. "It's almost like it's going to be two Americas."

But spikes in coronavirus cases are "entirely avoidable, entirely preventable" with vaccination, said Fauci, who heads the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
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