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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13986 on: June 01, 2021, 03:29:04 PM »
as most of them but,............. someone needs to pick up this ball and do a more than decent job with it.

perhaps, Association of American Medical Colleges or The American College of Physicians or The National Medical Association or the American Board of Medical Specialties

It obviously falls under the CDC, but we all know how politics interfere with that organization
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13987 on: June 01, 2021, 03:34:05 PM »
AMA has one of the largest lobby budgets in the country.

No thanks.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13988 on: June 01, 2021, 03:40:03 PM »
maybe the association of physicians that drive mercedes?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13989 on: June 01, 2021, 04:07:08 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 01, 2021, 02:38:51 PM
NJ did the same thing that NY did with the elderly. So did Michigan. I don't know the others.

Florida did very well, and half of the people who live here in the Winter came from the Midwest and Northeast. Who knows how many cases were brought with them.

Clearly we were all wrong early on about the Spring Break thing. Outdoors and warm was not and is not a danger.
By the numbers, Florida did average... 19th-most cases/1M and 26th most deaths/1M. That's pretty much dead center nationally. 

People here (including me) have criticized California's handling of COVID, but California is better on both metrics than Florida. Would you also say California did "very well"? 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13990 on: June 01, 2021, 04:31:20 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on June 01, 2021, 04:07:08 PM
By the numbers, Florida did average... 19th-most cases/1M and 26th most deaths/1M. That's pretty much dead center nationally.

People here (including me) have criticized California's handling of COVID, but California is better on both metrics than Florida. Would you also say California did "very well"?
Nope.

FL unemployment is at 4.8 percent.

CA unemployment is at 8.2 percent. 

FL median age of population is 42.4 y/o.

CA median age of population is 37.0 y/o.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13991 on: June 01, 2021, 04:52:40 PM »
I'll wait for MDot to weigh in.......... ;)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13992 on: June 01, 2021, 04:58:07 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 01, 2021, 04:31:20 PM
Nope.

FL unemployment is at 4.8 percent.

CA unemployment is at 8.2 percent.

FL median age of population is 42.4 y/o.

CA median age of population is 37.0 y/o.

Yeah, the total health aspects are only part of the metrics.  Economic loss is another large part of it.  We knew from the beginning we'd have to strike a balance.  Well, some of us knew, anyway. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13993 on: June 01, 2021, 05:08:49 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 01, 2021, 04:31:20 PM
Nope.

FL unemployment is at 4.8 percent.

CA unemployment is at 8.2 percent.

FL median age of population is 42.4 y/o.

CA median age of population is 37.0 y/o.
That you have to explain this....

mind boggling.

I remember driving through the country to go to my annual golf outing last fall, and having to stop at roadblocks entering Florida( on the return drive) which were constructed to halt the influx of people from the north east and upper Midwest from entering the state because their Covid situation’s were so bad.

By any reasonable measure that considers @ balanced” approach, Florida, which has 4 major metro MSAs and an aging population- has done extremely well relative to others. 

The true evidence of this is the large daily influx of new residents, which began early during the pandemic and continues today at a clip estimated at 1000 to 1500 per day.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13994 on: June 01, 2021, 05:56:02 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 01, 2021, 04:58:07 PM
Yeah, the total health aspects are only part of the metrics.  Economic loss is another large part of it.  We knew from the beginning we'd have to strike a balance.  Well, some of us knew, anyway.

Not too many people talk about the psychological issues with this thing. That is huge - especially for kids who were denied education for over a year.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13995 on: June 01, 2021, 05:58:18 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on June 01, 2021, 05:08:49 PM
That you have to explain this....

I don't feel like I have to, but damn, just think about what this has done to the country. Also consider my post above.

Lots of antidepressant manufacturers have done really well this year.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13996 on: June 01, 2021, 07:07:13 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 01, 2021, 05:58:18 PM
I don't feel like I have to, but damn, just think about what this has done to the country. Also consider my post above.

Lots of antidepressant manufacturers have done really well this year.
I meant- that you have to defend Florida.  

still see blindness here carrying over.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13997 on: June 01, 2021, 07:23:18 PM »
Florida unemployment rate over time: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FLUR

California unemployment rate over time: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CAUR

Look pretty f'ing similar to me. Florida's unemployment was slightly lower to start with [for many reasons] and recovered slightly faster, but both faced MASSIVE spikes when COVID hit. California had 12% fewer cases/1M and 7% fewer deaths/1M, but both are kinda in the middle of the national averages overall. 


Seems like slight differences both ways.

I'm not attacking Florida, so not asking you to defend it. I don't think their response was bad. I also don't think it was a master stroke of governance. It was somewhere in the middle.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13998 on: June 01, 2021, 07:48:12 PM »
I also don't think we have one state that was an example of a master stroke of governance.

I don't think there was or is a master stroke that can be considered correct
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13999 on: June 02, 2021, 12:19:08 AM »
I was mostly happy with how Ohio handled things.  Every decision was based on statistics available at the time.  Hospitals were never overwhelmed, and restrictions are officially over today.  I have a few gripes, such as curfews and masking requirements for outdoor parks etc. during surges, but pretty good overall.  

I also think the vaccine lottery was a good try to get people to get vaccinated.  It is laughable though that the cash value of entry into a lottery like that would be about $1, but it still helped get the numbers up.
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