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Mdot21

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13860 on: May 24, 2021, 02:53:51 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on May 24, 2021, 01:39:50 PM
So assuming this is shown to be the result of gain-of-function research and was an accidental leak from that lab.

What then?
It is probably 90%+ it came from an accidental leak at an lab that was doing gain of function research. 

When this is proved to be the case, gain of function research should be banned- like it was under the Obama administration- and Faucci should at minimum be fired or even prosecuted and thrown in jail for going around the Trump administrations back for turning it back on. 

Gain of function research is too dangerous and potential disaster and detestation it causes far outweighs any perceived benefits it might have if any. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13861 on: May 24, 2021, 03:01:11 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 24, 2021, 02:05:24 PM
The population gain is from 200 to 330 million not an order of magnitude. 

That was an unusually lethal influenza year, roughly 60,000 excess deaths over expected, or if we adjust for population, about 100,000 excess deaths.

 We all had apparently zero resistance to COVID 19.  600,000 > 100,000.  And of course 1968 is a while back.  I was a kid.

This is worse than 1968, but a lot.  1918 was worse than this, by a lot.


Eh, crunching the numbers it definitely doesn't look like an order of magnitude, though there is a difference. Which also makes sense - I put in the wrong pandemic. The one it is most similar to is 1957/59, another one I knew nothing about until covid. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13862 on: May 24, 2021, 03:38:07 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13863 on: May 24, 2021, 06:23:07 PM »
All positive trends down here now. The Vax and prior infections are getting close to defeating this thing.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13864 on: May 24, 2021, 07:32:33 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on May 24, 2021, 01:39:50 PM
So assuming this is shown to be the result of gain-of-function research and was an accidental leak from that lab.

What then?


1. Any foreign government funding Wuhan’s lab (such as ours) should stop their funding.

2. An investigation should be opened into WHO’s supposed early-2020 investigation of Wuhan’s lab when Wuhan was known to be the Covid source. What we increasingly know now should’ve been uncovered by WHO who had privileged access to Wuhan’s lab.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13865 on: May 24, 2021, 08:37:12 PM »
Is it ok to call it the Chinese virus yet?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13866 on: May 24, 2021, 09:43:33 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on May 24, 2021, 07:32:33 PM

1. Any foreign government funding Wuhan’s lab (such as ours) should stop their funding.

2. An investigation should be opened into WHO’s supposed early-2020 investigation of Wuhan’s lab when Wuhan was known to be the Covid source. What we increasingly know now should’ve been uncovered by WHO who had privileged access to Wuhan’s lab.
Viruses very commonly start in China. What would be the benefit of stopping research there?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13867 on: May 24, 2021, 10:45:49 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 24, 2021, 02:53:51 PM
It is probably 90%+ it came from an accidental leak at an lab that was doing gain of function research.
Tell us more where that percentage came from.  Gene Wilder's popularity lives on in famous internet memes - ABC News
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13868 on: May 25, 2021, 08:24:27 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on May 24, 2021, 07:32:33 PM

1. Any foreign government funding Wuhan’s lab (such as ours) should stop their funding.

2. An investigation should be opened into WHO’s supposed early-2020 investigation of Wuhan’s lab when Wuhan was known to be the Covid source. What we increasingly know now should’ve been uncovered by WHO who had privileged access to Wuhan’s lab.

Investigate THIS. And do not re-join THIS.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13869 on: May 25, 2021, 08:44:18 AM »
Lincoln, Neb. (KPTM) — Governor Pete Ricketts announced a return to normalcy in a press conference on Monday.

He said Nebraska will be pulling out of the federal extra unemployment program starting June 19th.

This is the program that provided those on unemployment because of COVID an extra $300 a week.

Nebraska is also pulling out of three other federal unemployment programs: The Pandemic Unemployment Assistance, which extended unemployment insurance to people who wouldn't normally qualify, like gig workers and people who are self-employed; the Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation, which allowed people on the unemployment program to stay on it longer than usual; and the Mixed Earner Unemployment Compensation, which allowed an extra $100 in benefits for people who made money through self-employment and a more traditional job.

The directed health measures such as quarantining will no longer be required as of 11:59 p.m. on Monday he said.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13870 on: May 25, 2021, 08:44:39 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on May 24, 2021, 08:37:12 PM
Is it ok to call it the Chinese virus yet?
yes, but not on this thread
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13871 on: May 25, 2021, 09:07:55 AM »
China virus, sure.

Wuhan Flu is probably iffy.

Kung  Flu is definitely over the top and more than a little racist.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13872 on: May 25, 2021, 09:17:21 AM »
I'd rather we not use China virus. Covid is fine.

What I don't get is why it's OK to call it a UK variant or South African variant. I wish that would stop too.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13873 on: May 25, 2021, 09:36:06 AM »
UK is a country, not a race

you know, like China
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