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MrNubbz · « **Reply #13692 on:** May 11, 2021, 06:39:14 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on May 10, 2021, 11:28:34 AM

Some folks are also afraid of the Virus, or Bats, or spiders.

Or idgits pounding Budwater while swinging clubs

MrNubbz · « **Reply #13693 on:** May 11, 2021, 07:40:13 AM »

utee94 · « **Reply #13694 on:** May 11, 2021, 07:48:39 AM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on May 10, 2021, 08:05:16 PM

Just got your six

I dont want anybody thinking you posted an article out of context

I think its important to post the sentence I pointed out which you failed to post

If the vaccines dont work against a new strain then we need to know it if we dont know yet we need to know that too

That's fair.

Quote from: longhorn320 on May 10, 2021, 11:49:32 PM

this is news to me

I knew they skipped the normal peer review to rush these vaccines out the door but it is my understanding that both vaccines have been peer reviewed since their release with very good results

am I wrong

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/01/peer-reviewed-data-show-high-protection-leading-covid-vaccines

https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2020-12-10-nejm-releases-impressive-peer-reviewed-data-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine

We're talking, specifically, about the strain in India. Those links are older and don't address it.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #13695 on:** May 11, 2021, 08:06:06 AM »

utee94 · « **Reply #13696 on:** May 11, 2021, 08:34:28 AM »

Here ya go lh320, you prefer when I post good news:

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1391096624059883522?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1391096624059883522%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FEricTopol%2Fstatus%2F1391096624059883522

longhorn320 · « **Reply #13697 on:** May 11, 2021, 10:12:53 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on May 11, 2021, 07:48:39 AM

That's fair.

We're talking, specifically, about the strain in India. Those links are older and don't address it.

OK I completely misunderstood your post

I thought you were saying the vaccines had never been peer reviewed

when you were actually saying the new vaccines had not been peer reviewed against the new strain in India

sorry

FearlessF · « **Reply #13698 on:** May 11, 2021, 10:20:02 AM »

so, not talking about any strain from or in Indai or any other strains that may be coming..........

it does appear that the vaccines have been very effective vs the popular strains here in the USA

I haven't heard anything about vaccinated folks getting/testing positive for COVID, must less actually being hospitalized.

I assume that would be a BIG story

longhorn320 · « **Reply #13699 on:** May 11, 2021, 10:27:08 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on May 11, 2021, 08:34:28 AM

Here ya go lh320, you prefer when I post good news:

I like good news that is true

But if it must be bad we need to know it

In short post all the news and Im happy

I much prefer folks such as yourself not just accept everything that gets printed but who continue to look at things through

skeptical eyes until proven so feel free to post as much bad news as you wish just as long as you dont have some hidden agenda

to only filter bad news and ignore the good

longhorn320 · « **Reply #13700 on:** May 11, 2021, 10:28:11 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on May 11, 2021, 10:20:02 AM

so, not talking about any strain from or in Indai or any other strains that may be coming..........

it does appear that the vaccines have been very effective vs the popular strains here in the USA

I haven't heard anything about vaccinated folks getting/testing positive for COVID, must less actually being hospitalized.

I assume that would be a BIG story

Here too

I think youre right

Cincydawg · « **Reply #13701 on:** May 11, 2021, 11:57:58 AM »

COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

As of April 26, 2021, more than 95 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. During the same time, CDC received reports of vaccine breakthrough infections from 46 U.S. states and territories.
Total number of vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC

[th]Total number of vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC[/th] [th]9,245[/th]
Females	5,827 (63%)
People aged ≥60 years	4,245 (45%)
Asymptomatic infections	2,525 (27%)
Hospitalizations*	835 (9%)
Deaths†	132 (1%)

*241 (29%) of the 835 hospitalizations were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19.
†20 (15%) of the 132 fatal cases were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19.

How to interpret these data

It is important to note that reported vaccine breakthrough cases will represent an undercount. This surveillance system is passive and relies on voluntary reporting from state health departments which may not be complete. Also, not all real-world breakthrough cases will be identified because of lack of testing. This is particularly true in instances of asymptomatic or mild illness. These surveillance data are a snapshot and help identify patterns and look for signals among vaccine breakthrough cases.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #13702 on:** May 11, 2021, 11:59:46 AM »

DPH Releases Data on Covid-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Cases Highlighting Vaccine Effectiveness

Of the 1,467,189 persons who have completed their vaccine series, 242 have been confirmed as contracting COVID-19. Of those, 109 (45%) had no symptoms of the disease.

Three deaths have occurred among the 242 vaccine breakthrough cases. All three individuals were confirmed to have had underlying medical conditions and were in the following age groups: 55-64 (1), 65-74 (1), and 75+ (1). Nationally, the CDC has reported a total of 132 vaccine breakthrough deaths.

utee94 · « **Reply #13703 on:** May 11, 2021, 12:21:04 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on May 11, 2021, 10:20:02 AM

so, not talking about any strain from or in Indai or any other strains that may be coming..........

it does appear that the vaccines have been very effective vs the popular strains here in the USA

I haven't heard anything about vaccinated folks getting/testing positive for COVID, must less actually being hospitalized.

I assume that would be a BIG story

Yeah, they call them "breakthrough cases" and CD just posted some data about them.

The thing to keep in mind, though, is that the rates of breakthrough are still much lower than the expected efficacy rates would indicate, so in fact the efficacy is even higher than the clinical trials indicated they would be.

To summarize-- the above is very good news. I think some people were under the impression that the vaccine would completely prevent infection, but it doesn't. It just prevents it 99.96% of the time...

longhorn320 · « **Reply #13704 on:** May 11, 2021, 12:38:30 PM »

The MSM wants us to get vaccinated so bad that they tend to overlook these breakthrough cases

Ive seen very little mention of them

still they are well within acceptable limits so all appears well

FearlessF · « **Reply #13705 on:** May 11, 2021, 01:23:24 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on May 11, 2021, 12:21:04 PM

To summarize-- the above is very good news. I think some people were under the impression that the vaccine would completely prevent infection, but it doesn't. It just prevents it 99.96% of the time...

that a good enuff percentage for me

about the same percentage that Nebraska used to win vs Oklahoma State and Kansas St. in the 60s, 70's, 80's and 90's

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