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Cincydawg

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13314 on: April 07, 2021, 10:29:33 AM »
SOMETHING has killed a LOT more of us this past 12 months than would be typical or expected.

That increase lines up with reported COVID deaths.  

I'm sure SOME folks really died OF something else and were counted, but it cannot be statistically significant.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13315 on: April 07, 2021, 10:56:38 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 07, 2021, 09:59:31 AM
True, but how often is something like this REALLY happening?

I also believe a portion of the excess deaths, especially those at the beginning of the pandemic, are potentially related to people delaying medical care for their existing health problems, and/or not being able to get into a medical treatment facility, and dying a result of their existing conditions.

But I don't think THAT's really all that large of a number, either.
My DIL is an ER and ICU nurse. It happens a lot.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13316 on: April 07, 2021, 11:01:47 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on April 07, 2021, 12:27:05 AM
Iowa removed age and co-morbidity restrictions to the vaccine on April 5. I expected difficulty getting an appointment, but my wife and I already obtained an appointment for April 7 for the Pfizer vaccine. One of my colleagues provided me with an app on my phone to locate the nearest sources of vaccine appointments by zip code. The app is only for Iowa. I have to travel 25 miles one-way as our county is short on vaccine, but that amount of travel is no problem.

The end of elevated risk is now in sight.

(FearlessF, if you are looking for a vaccine and want the app, PM me with your cell phone #.)
got my first Pfizer yesterday at 5pm at the local Hy-Vee Pharmacy
lost my card already
supposed to go back in 3 weeks for the 2nd shot
no weird side effects
can't tell if the soreness in my shoulder is the usual pain I've have for over 6 months or new from the shot.  I'm guessing it's the usual pain that hopefully will go away some day
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13317 on: April 07, 2021, 11:04:21 AM »
speaking with a co-worker this morning........... she states that the Federal Government somehow signed off that the vaccine companies such as Pfizer cannot be sued in the future for issues with the vaccine if any arise.

any truth to that?

and so what if the Feds gave them a piece of paper or a handshake.  Does that hold up in court years from now?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13318 on: April 07, 2021, 11:16:35 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 07, 2021, 11:04:21 AM
speaking with a co-worker this morning........... she states that the Federal Government somehow signed off that the vaccine companies such as Pfizer cannot be sued in the future for issues with the vaccine if any arise.

any truth to that?

and so what if the Feds gave them a piece of paper or a handshake.  Does that hold up in court years from now?
That is true- and you sign to acknowledge that before you get the vaccine. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13319 on: April 07, 2021, 11:41:36 AM »
does this thing you sign say

if you die dont come running to us

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13320 on: April 07, 2021, 12:09:00 PM »
Think about it, in a population there will be "side effects" for no reason, folks dying of this or that, with no vaccine.

But, they don't have anyone to sue, in the main.  

Have a heart attack AFTER getting the vaccine and you could normally sue.  The number of suits would be epic with something this vast.  No company could afford that.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13321 on: April 07, 2021, 12:15:26 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on April 07, 2021, 11:16:35 AM
That is true- and you sign to acknowledge that before you get the vaccine.
does this signature hold up in court?

from what I understand most signatures do not
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13322 on: April 07, 2021, 01:26:27 PM »
The question is how many lawyers would take up a case on contingency with that signature extant.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13323 on: April 07, 2021, 04:52:39 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on April 07, 2021, 11:16:35 AM
That is true- and you sign to acknowledge that before you get the vaccine.
is this also true for most other vaccines?
Such as the flu shot or others in the past like the polio vaccine?
I sign for just about any prescription med I pick up at the pharmacy
my co-worker was using this "pass" on lawsuits vs the vaccine companies as a sure sign that the vaccine was dangerous, otherwise the vaccines companies wouldn't have insisted on it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13324 on: April 07, 2021, 05:10:27 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 07, 2021, 11:04:21 AM
speaking with a co-worker this morning........... she states that the Federal Government somehow signed off that the vaccine companies such as Pfizer cannot be sued in the future for issues with the vaccine if any arise.

any truth to that?
Well the vaccine's have been rushed thru w/o complete trials.So who's the Lab Rats
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13325 on: April 07, 2021, 05:11:07 PM »
she tried that one as well, shot it down
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13326 on: April 07, 2021, 05:19:18 PM »
Shot what down?The theory?Prolly more like a fact it simply hasn't been tested extensively.And all sorts of carnival barkers have been pissing down our backs and tell us it's raining - so flip a coin
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13327 on: April 07, 2021, 05:29:28 PM »
from what I've been told, it's been tested as thoroughly as other vaccines.  They saved time by testing the different stages at the same time instead of waiting until the 1st stage was verified and then starting the 2nd stage of testing and so on.

It could all be a huge lie I suppose.

But, Trump's administration would never lie about such a thing, just to get the economy moving again

of course many other countries, even civilized countries in Europe authorized the vaccines before the good ol USA
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