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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12880 on: March 12, 2021, 02:39:45 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on March 12, 2021, 10:25:16 AM
I haven't heard any correlation between age and side effects...

Just remember correlation does not mean causation 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12881 on: March 13, 2021, 10:12:07 AM »
Tracy Høeg, MD, PhD on Twitter: "This morning, I testified as an expert physician epidemiologist on COVID in schools for a House of Representatives Round Table. It was a fascinating and productive experience. To me, the most important messages were as follows:" / Twitter
Tracy Høeg, MD, PhD on Twitter: "This morning, I testified as an expert physician epidemiologist on COVID in schools for a House of Representatives Round Table. It was a fascinating and productive experience. To me, the most important messages were as follows:" / Twitter
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12882 on: March 13, 2021, 10:41:46 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 13, 2021, 10:12:07 AM
Tracy Høeg, MD, PhD on Twitter: "This morning, I testified as an expert physician epidemiologist on COVID in schools for a House of Representatives Round Table. It was a fascinating and productive experience. To me, the most important messages were as follows:" / Twitter
Tracy Høeg, MD, PhD on Twitter: "This morning, I testified as an expert physician epidemiologist on COVID in schools for a House of Representatives Round Table. It was a fascinating and productive experience. To me, the most important messages were as follows:" / Twitter


I'm glad that she's saying this.  But I'm confused as to why this is even a discussion at this point.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12883 on: March 13, 2021, 10:48:58 AM »
Common sense isn't so common at least the higher up the governmental ladder you go
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12884 on: March 13, 2021, 11:37:03 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 13, 2021, 10:41:46 AM
It's glad that she's saying this.  But I'm confused as to why this is even a discussion at this point.
So are parents in half the states in this country of ours. And now they are starting to get really pissed.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12885 on: March 13, 2021, 12:51:35 PM »
As a FYI, I’m about 22 hours removed from my second Moderna shot.  Woke up this morning feeling a little achy, but nothing too bad.

Been active today. Put up some laundry, cooked breakfast, cleaned up the kitchen, ran a couple of errands for my wife. I will say I’m feeling it a little more right now.  I’m tired and achy and just feel like I want to lay around a little bit.  Ordinarily, I’d be hitting the gym at some point today but that isn’t going to happen.

But if this is as bad as it gets I’ll take it.  I’ve heard stories of crushing fatigue and terrible headaches, and I’ve had nothing like that. Just feeling a little rundown right now.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12886 on: March 13, 2021, 12:52:23 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on March 12, 2021, 02:39:45 PM
Just remember correlation does not mean causation
Yes, I'm aware of the post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy. 

Quote from: utee94 on March 13, 2021, 10:41:46 AM
I'm glad that she's saying this.  But I'm confused as to why this is even a discussion at this point.
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So are parents in half the states in this country of ours. And now they are starting to get really pissed.
Likewise I don't understand it. Here in Orange County, we've had the kids in school all year. Oddly the charter school was more cautious regarding closures when there were exposures than the public. Plenty of SoCal has been doing this all year, and without any disastrous effects.

Yet I believe LA Unified School District has been distance learning all year. 

You would have thought that perhaps after seeing other counties successfully manage during the first semester, they'd have started planning for second-semester return. But some are still talking about IF, not how, they'll return to in-person this fall. 

I don't get it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12887 on: March 13, 2021, 01:11:47 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on March 13, 2021, 12:52:23 PM
Yes, I'm aware of the post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy.
Likewise I don't understand it. Here in Orange County, we've had the kids in school all year. Oddly the charter school was more cautious regarding closures when there were exposures than the public. Plenty of SoCal has been doing this all year, and without any disastrous effects.

Yet I believe LA Unified School District has been distance learning all year.

You would have thought that perhaps after seeing other counties successfully manage during the first semester, they'd have started planning for second-semester return. But some are still talking about IF, not how, they'll return to in-person this fall.

I don't get it.
Yeah that's the part that's totally shocking to me. Mind-boggling.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12888 on: March 13, 2021, 06:02:47 PM »
The folks who have not had shots at all have also experienced "side effects", they just didn't attribute it to the shot.  It was just life.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12889 on: March 14, 2021, 09:33:19 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 13, 2021, 01:11:47 PM
Yeah that's the part that's totally shocking to me. Mind-boggling.
Teacher's Unions have far more power than they should.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12890 on: March 14, 2021, 09:45:39 AM »
France has had in school learning since August.

Their K-12 is of course Federalized.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12891 on: March 14, 2021, 09:50:57 AM »
Sometimes problems can be complex. Columbus Public was delayed opening up, though it wasn't the teacher's unions, it was that they didn't have enough buses because kids could only sit one at a seat. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12892 on: March 14, 2021, 10:29:19 AM »
My kids have had in person instruction basically the entire year. I say basically because they followed the public school state map. So, when our county was in the red the school would go virtual for the week. They also went virtual the week after Thanksgiving break and for two weeks after Christmas break.

Altogether they have had 26 weeks of instruction and I would say about 20 of those have been the 5 day,  in person variety.  If there has been one positive case among the students or faculty I’m unaware of it.  

I will say the public schools here in WV went back full time just a couple weeks ago and I know some of the local schools around here have experienced some mini outbreaks. One school in a neighboring county  already went back to virtual.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12893 on: March 14, 2021, 10:42:24 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 14, 2021, 10:29:19 AM
My kids have had in person instruction basically the entire year. I say basically because they followed the public school state map. So, when our county was in the red the school would go virtual for the week. They also went virtual the week after Thanksgiving break and for two weeks after Christmas break.

Altogether they have had 26 weeks of instruction and I would say about 20 of those have been the 5 day,  in person variety.  If there has been one positive case among the students or faculty I’m unaware of it. 

I will say the public schools here in WV went back full time just a couple weeks ago and I know some of the local schools around here have experienced some mini outbreaks. One school in a neighboring county  already went back to virtual.

Are they really "mini-outbreaks" or are they just positive tests?  We've had a handful of those, and each and every time it has been a student that was infected through their home life, and came to school, before knowing they were exposed.  In our specific schools, there is not one single case of those students infecting anyone else at school.  

This is of course for my kids who are in elementary and middle school. High school transmission is a little more iffy, but I can say that our high schools haven't shut down due to cases, either.  Any student that exhibits symptoms and/or tests positive, induces contact-tracing efforts and anyone deemed a "close contact" is sent home to quarantine and do online-school for 2 weeks.
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