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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11900 on: January 14, 2021, 04:30:30 PM »
So, the wife had a noon appointment, we arrive 20 minutes ahead of time, and the traffic is a nightmare.  A cop outside is directing, using the term loosely, folks this way and that, I can't turn left, so I go straight and make a U, then discover I can't turn right coming back, I have to turn left again, make another U and go straight into the parking lot.  It's a spacious lot, but they have folks for some reason "checking on you", four times, the wife got out and walked as it was a minute to noon.  Finally I park, plenty of spaces available. 

She texts me not to try and come inside, you can't.  OK, I sit in the car.  And wait.  The lot starts filling up now, traffic is incredible.  She texts me they ran out of vaccine and have to get more from Atlanta somewhere.  We're out in Alpharetta.

Finally after 2 PM she comes out.  I scoot out of the lot and find a main road and we find a nice bar/restaurant in Akpoharetta for lunch and a beer.

She told me once they had vaccine it was very professional, a fireman stuck her.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11901 on: January 14, 2021, 04:55:54 PM »
it was very professional, a fireman stuck her.

from what I've seen on video footage, nearly anyone could be trained to give the injection.  I think I could do it properly after a 15 minute training
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11902 on: January 14, 2021, 04:56:17 PM »
I have no problem getting the vaccination I just dont want to wait in line
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11903 on: January 14, 2021, 05:12:11 PM »
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11904 on: January 14, 2021, 05:17:20 PM »
nobody likes waiting in line, but it happens from time to time for important things

pretty sure that is one of the most important things you learn in college
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11905 on: January 14, 2021, 05:26:05 PM »
nobody likes waiting in line, but it happens from time to time for important things

pretty sure that is one of the most important things you learn in college
I flunked standing in line

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11906 on: January 14, 2021, 05:30:18 PM »
pretty sure that is one of the most important things you learn in college
Not anymore. It's all online.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11907 on: January 14, 2021, 06:08:52 PM »
Not anymore. It's all online.
yep when I went to UT obviously there was no internet
and at the assigned time you showed up along with thousands of others
stood in line for whatever course you wanted and if you were lucky they gave you a card
which meant you were signed up for that course

youd spend all day long standing in lines and maybe get 4 of the 5 courses set then find out that 5th course 
wasnt offered when you needed it so you had to go back and stand in lines again until you had all your courses
set

When my daughter went to UT and explained to me how they registered over the internet I was floored
I told her that was very unfair
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11908 on: January 14, 2021, 08:19:56 PM »
My wife's group has been comparing notes with each other on reactions to vaccine.  One thing they've noticed, the type A blood type people have had the bulk of the symptomatic reactions for a day or more.
My wife is A+, and she is worried about the reaction.  She's already got other complicating factors: multiple major allergies and lupus.
I'm O+ and my only complicating factor is age.  We're both getting ours Sunday.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11909 on: January 15, 2021, 09:47:49 AM »
The virus is going to propagate anyway, regardless.  Forever.  You have to know that, right?  It's not going away.  The flu doesn't go away.  The cold doesn't go away.


Been waiting for longer term Covid projections and it looks like this study out of the U.K. is putting together some data:

“The preliminary findings in Public Health England’s SIREN study — which has surveyed thousands of U.K. health-care workers in a bid to establish whether prior infection protects against future infection — found antibodies provide an 83% rate of protection against reinfection, compared with people who have not had the disease before.“

”This immunity appears to last at least five months, the report said. Reinfections in people with antibodies were rare, the study published on Thursday found, with experts identifying 44 potential reinfections among 6,614 participants involved the study.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/14/covid-infection-provides-around-as-much-immunity-as-vaccines-study.html

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11910 on: January 15, 2021, 10:00:32 AM »
Been waiting for longer term Covid projections and it looks like this study out of the U.K. is putting together some data:

“The preliminary findings in Public Health England’s SIREN study — which has surveyed thousands of U.K. health-care workers in a bid to establish whether prior infection protects against future infection — found antibodies provide an 83% rate of protection against reinfection, compared with people who have not had the disease before.“

”This immunity appears to last at least five months, the report said. Reinfections in people with antibodies were rare, the study published on Thursday found, with experts identifying 44 potential reinfections among 6,614 participants involved the study.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/14/covid-infection-provides-around-as-much-immunity-as-vaccines-study.html
I hope protection from a vaccination lasts longer then five months
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11911 on: January 15, 2021, 10:08:14 AM »
at least

could be double that for some
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11912 on: January 15, 2021, 10:16:20 AM »
Yeah, if immunity (via vaccination and/or natural antibodies) only lasts 5 months for a decent % of the population, that's exactly why I continue to maintain that this is never going away.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11913 on: January 15, 2021, 10:22:35 AM »
I posted this about a week ago... https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/01/06/1015822/covid-19-immunity-likely-lasts-for-years/


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But the new study suggests reinfection should only be a problem for a very small percentage of people who’ve developed immunity—whether through an initial infection or by vaccination. 

In fact, the new study does show that a small number of recovered people do not have long-lasting immunity. But vaccination ought to offset that problem by ensuring herd immunity in the larger population. 

The new paper studied blood samples from 185 men and women who had recovered from covid-19—most from a mild infection, although 7% were hospitalized. Each person provided at least one blood sample between six days and eight months after their initial symptoms, and 43 of the samples were taken after six months. The team that ran the investigation measured the levels of several immunological agents that work together to prevent reinfection: antibodies (which tag a pathogen for destruction by the immune system or neutralize its activity), B cells (which make antibodies), and T cells (which kill infected cells). 

The researchers found that antibodies in the body declined moderately after eight months, although levels varied wildly between individuals. But T-cell numbers declined only modestly, and B-cell numbers held steady and sometimes inexplicably grew. That means that despite decreases in free-flowing antibodies, the components that can restart antibody production and coordinate an attack against the coronavirus stick around at pretty high levels. Crotty adds that the same mechanisms that lead to immune memory after infection also form the basis for immunity after vaccination, so the same trends ought to hold for vaccinated people as well. 

And while immunity to other coronaviruses has been less than stellar, it’s worth looking at what happens in people who recovered from SARS, a close cousin of the virus that causes covid-19. A study published in August showed that T cells specific to SARS can remain in the blood for at least 17 years, bolstering hopes that covid-19 immunity could last for decades.
Antibodies are only one small part of the puzzle...


 

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