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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11886 on: January 14, 2021, 11:01:55 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on January 14, 2021, 10:37:23 AM
Some of them don't actually have a choice. One of my wife's doctors who works part-time in a hospital, and her other doctor's husband who is a doctor and works in a hospital, were told that they get the shot or they can't come to work and don't get paid.

I was reading one piece where they looked at frontline healthcare staff, and those with the most education are most likely to get the shot, while those with the least education are the least likely.

Which should tell you something.
tells me everything 

I haven't done a lot of research, but some.  And then listening to intelligent folks here.

the people that I know that are afraid of the virus have done no research and know almost nothing about it.
I try to forward articles to them if they seem willing to educate themselves.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11887 on: January 14, 2021, 11:44:49 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on January 14, 2021, 10:38:51 AM
That's pretty much where I was... Figured that due to age, career, and health that by the time my name got called there'd be 100M others who would have already had it.

I've changed my tune and I'd get it today if possible.
Yeah I'm still in the same place.   But it's also easy for me to WFH and isolate.  I'm not overly worried if I get the virus, but I certainly wouldn't want to pass it on to my parents who are 80 and 77.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11888 on: January 14, 2021, 12:07:22 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 14, 2021, 09:26:00 AM
I wonder what the real number is of folks who really won't take the vaccine.

I suspect once they see neighbors and friends getting it with no apparent ill effects they will get it, especially if numbers go higher.  Of course, the true anti-vaxxers won't ever. 
I doubt it. The usual suspects are right back to pumping their anti-vaccine chickenfeed, even though they are braggart about not being scared of a virus that puts every 6th infection in the hospital. 

How long do you think before proof of vaccination is required for travel on planes, employment, etc.? I give it to the end of 2021.

I know my wife and I will gladly roll up our sleeves when it's our turn, but I also know that my turn isn't going to come for a while. Since I've been full-time WFH since COVID started, I'm fine with that.  If anything, my wife (college professor) would get a call long before me, depending on how pushy her employers are.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11889 on: January 14, 2021, 12:10:23 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on January 14, 2021, 12:07:22 PM
I doubt it. The usual suspects are right back to pumping their anti-vaccine chickenfeed, even though they are braggart about not being scared of a virus that puts every 6th infection in the hospital.

How long do you think before proof of vaccination is required for travel on planes, employment, etc.? I give it to the end of 2021.

I know my wife and I will gladly roll up our sleeves when it's our turn, but I also know that my turn isn't going to come for a while. Since I've been full-time WFH since COVID started, I'm fine with that.  If anything, my wife (college professor) would get a call long before me, depending on how pushy her employers are.

Die-hard anti-vaxers are going to fight it, of course.  But that's a pretty small segment.

I've already said that I'll wait to get it, but that I'll eventually get it.  I think the majority of people wanting to wait it out, are like me.  They're not hardcore Jenny McCarthy enthusiasts.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11890 on: January 14, 2021, 01:04:30 PM »
Complete mess at vaccine place and they ran out.  Hours waiting for noon appt
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11891 on: January 14, 2021, 01:09:57 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 14, 2021, 12:10:23 PM
  They're not hardcore Jenny McCarthy enthusiasts.


I was, in the mid-90s.  Absolutely smokin'.
Now, her ideology makes her ugly.

I get the "no rush" to get vaccinated crowd, if they're not high-risk.  I'm getting it soon, but will/should continue living how I've been living (carefully).  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11892 on: January 14, 2021, 01:17:14 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 14, 2021, 12:10:23 PM
Die-hard anti-vaxers are going to fight it, of course.  But that's a pretty small segment.

I've already said that I'll wait to get it, but that I'll eventually get it.  I think the majority of people wanting to wait it out, are like me.  They're not hardcore Jenny McCarthy enthusiasts.
Apparently the healthcare workers who aren't getting vaccinated are also mostly in the wait it out crowd, rather than anti-vax by nature. 

For me I changed my mind based on two factors:

  • Research. I learned about how the vaccine was created, how it works, etc. While it may have short-term side effects (which we know), the concept of mRNA doesn't to me lead to some down the road horrific long term effects. 
  • We're seeing more transmissible mutations of the virus that make it much harder to avoid contracting it, even with the level of care I normally take. Maybe with the low case rates we were seeing three months ago I'd be more interested in waiting. With the level of transmission today, I don't feel like that is a good risk choice.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11893 on: January 14, 2021, 01:18:52 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 14, 2021, 01:09:57 PM
I was, in the mid-90s.  Absolutely smokin'.
Now, her ideology makes her ugly.

I get the "no rush" to get vaccinated crowd, if they're not high-risk.  I'm getting it soon, but will/should continue living how I've been living (carefully). 
Well yeah, I was definitely a Jenny McCarthy enthusiast back in the day.  I figured someone would bring that up. :)


And as a teacher, I believe you should be at the front of the line along with critical healthcare workers for vaccinations.  

I admittedly have the luxury of working from home and being able to isolate pretty easily.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11894 on: January 14, 2021, 01:44:59 PM »
For me I changed my mind based on 1 factor:

Research. I learned about how the vaccine was created, how it works, etc. While it may have short-term side effects (which we know), the concept of mRNA doesn't to me lead to some down the road horrific long term effects.

and since I'm only 58, I'll have to wait a good while anyway.  But, If I could take the vaccine today, I'd do it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11895 on: January 14, 2021, 01:45:31 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 14, 2021, 01:04:30 PM
Complete mess at vaccine place and they ran out.  Hours waiting for noon appt
I'd blame the federal government
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11896 on: January 14, 2021, 01:58:54 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11897 on: January 14, 2021, 03:22:34 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on January 14, 2021, 01:17:14 PM
Apparently the healthcare workers who aren't getting vaccinated are also mostly in the wait it out crowd, rather than anti-vax by nature.

For me I changed my mind based on two factors:

  • Research. I learned about how the vaccine was created, how it works, etc. While it may have short-term side effects (which we know), the concept of mRNA doesn't to me lead to some down the road horrific long term effects.
  • We're seeing more transmissible mutations of the virus that make it much harder to avoid contracting it, even with the level of care I normally take. Maybe with the low case rates we were seeing three months ago I'd be more interested in waiting. With the level of transmission today, I don't feel like that is a good risk choice.



I am not an anti-vaxer, but I never have gotten any kind of vaccine since I was a child and did not intend to get any in future.

I have never had the flu, I generally don't catch anything.  But with the new grandbaby being sick, I will get any and all vaccine that I need to make sure I keep her healthy. I have been trying off and on to get on the schedule here in Arizona, but always says nothing is available.   
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11898 on: January 14, 2021, 03:30:21 PM »
I have no problem getting the vaccination I just dont want to wait in line
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11899 on: January 14, 2021, 04:08:44 PM »
My wife's group has been comparing notes with each other on reactions to vaccine.  One thing they've noticed, the type A blood type people have had the bulk of the symptomatic reactions for a day or more.   
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