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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11788 on: January 10, 2021, 08:59:37 AM »
My step daughter living in Marseille went to be tested and was shocked when told she was a positive for COVID.  So, she got retested at another site and was negative.  She went back to the first site and was negative there.  They said they thought they had a bad batch of PCR ingredients.

Great.  She went with two others and they were all pos, then neg, then neg.
Two other friends or two other sites?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11789 on: January 10, 2021, 11:24:16 AM »
Looking through the numbers and graphs today. Below I've posted the UK Daily New Case Graph indicating the sharp increase in cases since November, and these numbers are rising and that's WHILE Britain has remained in lockdown. Britain is an example for what's also occurring in California, Germany, Japan, Russia...mankind is losing; the virus is winning, sharply rising despite the individual precautions and economic shutdowns.

For another example, take Germany (total deaths graph posted below). Through October many experts praised Germany's proactiveness and national health initiatives in keeping cases and deaths at low levels in proportion to their population. Through October Germany's population of 84 million had recorded under 10K deaths through mid-October compared to the US's population of 330 million recorded about 215K deaths through the same date. Now look at Germany's sharp rise in deaths.

In looking at all this, and given the inevitable mutations, did our experts severely underestimate what we're up against??? Despite all our efforts to mask up, socially distance, close our economies, shelter in place, unveiling a vaccine, etc - 10 months later we're LOSING worse than ever.

Mankind is used to controlling everything save for the weather. Are we learning too late that COVID is a force of nature as severe as a Hurricane? For example, our wearing of masks and distancing against COVID is akin to boarding our windows against a Hurricane? If wisely wearing a mask is no better than boarding your windows against a Hurricane, our house, so to speak, was never going to withstand the direct hit COVID has us under?











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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11790 on: January 10, 2021, 11:31:24 AM »
Two other friends or two other sites?
She went with two friends at the same time to Site One, then Site Two, then Site One again.  Pos Neg Neg.

She was quite annoyed because they were cavalier about the apparent false positive.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11791 on: January 10, 2021, 11:35:49 AM »
Most hurricane damage of course is due to water, not wind, but the analogy may be apt.  The steps we've taken have been largely sparingly effective, or giving only temporary relief.

France shut down recently and it did have an impact on new cases, but they are trending up again.  If we can keep hospitals functional, it's the best we can do until the vaccine is out there in numbers.  I see about 5 million in the US has had the first shot, which is thought to be 50-60% effective.

I don't know how many have immunity from getting it.  We have 23 million listed as having had it.  The true figure might be 100 million or so, probably less.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11792 on: January 10, 2021, 12:00:29 PM »
It's like anything else. You tell someone that they can't do it, and they are more inclined to do it.

Here, you can do anything, but most people are doing the right thing - including the businesses who are happy to be open. Most places are operating at 50 percent - by CHOICE.
Well, Badge, extend that logic not very much and where are you?  We can't have any rules because that would just encourage people to break them?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11793 on: January 10, 2021, 12:05:59 PM »
My esposita and I got negative results yesterday morning.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11794 on: January 10, 2021, 12:53:02 PM »
Well, Badge, extend that logic not very much and where are you?  We can't have any rules because that would just encourage people to break them?
I think most people obey the "rules" or laws. A lockdown is not a rule. It's a mandate.

People don't like mandates - especially a mandate from those who don't follow their own mandates.

I'm in Florida. No mandates here, but people are generally following the guidelines. I'd say 75-80% compliance.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11795 on: January 10, 2021, 12:54:12 PM »
Elected leaders who violate their own mandates are just begging for popular resistance to them, that's for sure.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11796 on: January 10, 2021, 08:40:24 PM »
I think most people obey the "rules" or laws. A lockdown is not a rule. It's a mandate.

People don't like mandates - especially a mandate from those who don't follow their own mandates.

I'm in Florida. No mandates here, but people are generally following the guidelines. I'd say 75-80% compliance.
What people do when others can see and what they do in private or trusted company are basically near-opposites.  
I read you say "most people obey the rules" and I immediately think "most people think they're the exception."  
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« Reply #11797 on: January 10, 2021, 08:41:01 PM »
Elected leaders who violate their own mandates are just begging for popular resistance to them, that's for sure.
Ruh roh, Raggie.  Getting all political is a no-no.  Believe me, I know.
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« Reply #11798 on: January 10, 2021, 08:42:06 PM »
As a member of the 1b group in AZ, I was able to schedule my vaccination for the end of January this evening.  

The fun part will be not changing my behavior as I wait for the masses to get their vaccines.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11799 on: January 10, 2021, 09:02:28 PM »
As a member of the 1b group in AZ, I was able to schedule my vaccination for the end of January this evening. 

The fun part will be not changing my behavior as I wait for the masses to get their vaccines. 
ok I gotta ask

are you receiving the vaccine because you are a teacher

I didnt realize teachers were considered that high on priority

not saying I disagree just that I thought the priority list didnt rank teachers that high
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11800 on: January 11, 2021, 10:02:04 AM »
What people do when others can see and what they do in private or trusted company are basically near-opposites. 
I read you say "most people obey the rules" and I immediately think "most people think they're the exception." 
I'm an optimist. You are not.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11801 on: January 11, 2021, 10:25:13 AM »
TMZ, of all places, with a very point to point account of the unfortunate COVID death of a Beverly Hills Plastic surgeon:

"While the doc was hovering over the maskless woman, our sources say she coughed in his face. He had his mask on... She contacted the office a few days later to inform them she had tested positive for COVID.

Dr. Simoni then went into quarantine and began experiencing symptoms -- shortness of breath, etc -- and in short order, he was on a ventilator at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. We're told Dr. Simoni was eventually placed in a medically induced coma as his lungs started failing. He died Friday from a brain hemorrhage."


https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/10/beverly-hills-plastic-surgeon-dies-covid-patient-cough/


 

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