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847badgerfan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11704 on: January 04, 2021, 07:41:34 PM »
Wisconsin. Not a major uptick, but it's still early.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11705 on: January 04, 2021, 07:45:21 PM »
many families have had one member get COVID and the others do not

seems strange as hell to me
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11706 on: January 04, 2021, 07:45:53 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on January 04, 2021, 07:41:34 PM
Wisconsin. Not a major uptick, but it's still early.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11707 on: January 04, 2021, 08:24:00 PM »
Well, I guess we will find out when the antibody tests come back. I pretty much get sick once every year or so with the exact symptoms. I just have no confidence in the COVID tests, so many false positives. And false negatives. 

For those who think that I did not take this serious recall that I lost my dad to COVID in October. Just not any practical way for me to stay isolated for 10 days. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11708 on: January 04, 2021, 08:32:00 PM »
I’m a little puzzled at how the vaccine rollout has been going. I heard they wanted to get 20 million doses out by years end but only got out 4 million. I almost wonder what the models would say if they switched to a demand based distribution and not a tiered distribution. Simply put, vaccinate anybody and everybody who wants it without regard to essential worker status or age. I’m not sure if the choke point is in the actual distribution method, trying to verify eligibility, controlling supplies, etc.  Kind of a low tide lowers all ships scenario where getting as many doses out as possible mathematically lowers the overall case rate which lowers the overall risk. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11709 on: January 04, 2021, 08:51:26 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on January 04, 2021, 08:32:00 PM
I’m a little puzzled at how the vaccine rollout has been going. I heard they wanted to get 20 million doses out by years end but only got out 4 million. I almost wonder what the models would say if they switched to a demand based distribution and not a tiered distribution. Simply put, vaccinate anybody and everybody who wants it without regard to essential worker status or age. I’m not sure if the choke point is in the actual distribution method, trying to verify eligibility, controlling supplies, etc.  Kind of a low tide lowers all ships scenario where getting as many doses out as possible mathematically lowers the overall case rate which lowers the overall risk.
Theres a lot of folks scratching their heads over this

I too have no clue why the roll out is going so slow
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11710 on: January 04, 2021, 10:32:54 PM »
I'd guess the holidays slowed things some
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11711 on: January 04, 2021, 11:22:39 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on January 04, 2021, 08:51:26 PM
Theres a lot of folks scratching their heads over this

I too have no clue why the roll out is going so slow
Hint:  we're not allowed to discuss the real reason.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11712 on: January 04, 2021, 11:35:50 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 04, 2021, 11:22:39 PM
Hint:  we're not allowed to discuss the real reason.
what? The tooth fairy is hoarding vaccine.

The truth is out there.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11713 on: January 05, 2021, 10:30:46 AM »
some wacko pharmacist in Wisconsin shit canned 500 doses 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11714 on: January 05, 2021, 10:43:32 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on January 02, 2021, 12:56:01 PM
LONDON — The U.K. has registered a record 57,725 daily coronavirus cases.

Government figures show the U.K. has recorded five straight daily highs — all above 50,000 and nearly double the levels of two weeks ago.

Mutant strain continues to get out of hand in Britain. Boris Johnson, who seems in over his head at this point, is declaring a nationwide lockdown through mid-February. From the Daily Beast (https://www.thedailybeast.com/britains-mutant-coronavirus-strain-has-swamped-the-nation-but-a-worse-one-has-already-arrived):

"The speed of the turnaround has been astonishing and terrifying. At the end of November, following a nationwide lockdown in England, Britain’s case numbers had declined to around 13,000 a day. Now the country has recorded more than 50,000 cases for six days in a row. The message to the world appears to be clear—the new variant spreads faster, and, without strict preventative measures, this will happen to you too."

"Britain’s surge comes despite the planned Christmas relaxation being scrapped, schools closing down for Christmas, and the biggest city, London, being in the top tier of lockdown for two weeks. Experts have been warning for weeks that the new variant spreads so quickly that rules that may have worked last year are no longer enough. Political leaders are now scrambling to find how to knock it back, or face catastrophe."

"Even more worryingly, though, is Hancock’s belief that the new British variant may not even be the biggest threat facing an already engulfed nation. He said Monday that he’s “incredibly worried” about a South African variant that has been deemed even more transmissible than the British one—and two cases of it have been confirmed in Britain."



https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1345839036393521154


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11715 on: January 05, 2021, 10:53:21 AM »
That's horrifying.

Is there any definitive news yet on how severe symptoms are with the newer, more transmissible strains?

We know from past history, that often times viruses that become more transmissible, also become less severe, as a result of their natural survival mechanisms.   Although this particular coronavirus also doesn't behave like a lot of other viruses, either.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11716 on: January 05, 2021, 01:42:32 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 05, 2021, 10:53:21 AM
That's horrifying.

Is there any definitive news yet on how severe symptoms are with the newer, more transmissible strains?

We know from past history, that often times viruses that become more transmissible, also become less severe, as a result of their natural survival mechanisms.  Although this particular coronavirus also doesn't behave like a lot of other viruses, either.
I believe that I read early on that the more-transmissible virus is about 70% less deadly.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11717 on: January 05, 2021, 03:17:05 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on January 05, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
I believe that I read early on that the more-transmissible virus is about 70% less deadly.
I haven't read anything like that. 

But I have to think that it's not accurate. If this was reported "early on", it would have continued to show up in the evidence of mortality of the new strain. If it had been corroborated anywhere, this sort of thing would be reported extremely widely and everyone would be talking about it. But... Crickets.
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