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This is the difference between us and Sweden, us and South Korea, us and just about every other country on earth.  And it's embarrassing.

Welp, I was gonna let you slide here, but I have to tell ya that you are not correct. There is no need to be embarrassed.

My friends from Munich visited our home the other day. They own properties in Germany (duh), Italy, France, Holland and Croatia.

The anti-maskers are in all of those places - about as much, or more, as they are here. They've seen more masking in Florida than they have in all of those places, except Holland.

I can see Holland for sure. And I know, because we spoke (Zoom) with our Amsterdam friends on Sunday and they said almost everyone wears masks.

OK, carry on. 

It's also not limited to the USA, which is what makes OAM's constant tirades against his own country so petty and pointless.

There are anti-maskers all over the world.  There are anti-mask protests all over the world.

And as far as I know, nobody in the USA has been brutally murdered for suggesting someone else wear a mask, but that's not a true statement for France:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53367432

OAM is simply looking for reasons to be embarrassed about his home country, without ever looking further at what's happening around the globe.  Talk about denying any meaningful context.

You're just so completely wrong.
Follow the logic here:
I'm constantly assured here that the US is the best country in the world.  So in other words, exceptional.
You specify the US is just like other countries in this stupid thing the masses are doing.
And you somehow fail to make the connection that if you're right about American exceptionalism AND arguing that the US is just like all these other countries in this stupid behavior......that does not compute.  

You're basically agreeing with me while slamming me.  You proclaim exceptionalism WHILE noting how common and mundane the US is.  

WTF?

You're just so completely wrong.
Follow the logic here:
I'm constantly assured here that the US is the best country in the world.  So in other words, exceptional.
You specify the US is just like other countries in this stupid thing the masses are doing.
And you somehow fail to make the connection that if you're right about American exceptionalism AND arguing that the US is just like all these other countries in this stupid behavior......that does not compute. 

You're basically agreeing with me while slamming me.  You proclaim exceptionalism WHILE noting how common and mundane the US is. 

WTF?

I reject your strawman portrayal of my position. 

I don't want to accuse you of being deliberately deceitful, nor of being incredibly stupid, so I'll just allow that perhaps you're conflating the views of multiple people you've had disagreements with.

I didnt say whack em I said to take them out of the picture

it really doesnt matter cause with a vaccine things will get better and you will have to find something else to bitch about

how long will it take before you allege racism with the way the vaccine is distributed

That's already a given.  See, that's what makes it systemic.  

There isn't one.  
This is all just something to do before we die.

Yes, the crazies would celebrate and the elderly would continue their echo chamber.  I couldn't have chosen a more accurate gif myself.

My main fear again is about hospital capacity.  If that starts to get exceeded, we'll have to have more serious interventions, I think.  Otherwise, we do what we're doing and get the vaccine out there asap, which is happening.

I "hear" that hospitals here are shutting down elective surgeries again.  That would make sense as it frees up nurses and orthopedic MDs and beds for COVID use as needed.  It is at least some excess capacity that can be used.

The numbers are not good.