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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11326 on: December 10, 2020, 09:00:09 AM »
Show him some respect.  He's not a little fish.  I'm chumming the water for a big score!
What are you trying to score?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11327 on: December 10, 2020, 01:18:48 PM »
"There is a lot more spread that has gone on in the last two months, and we anticipate into the winter time that this will be a more significant challenge for us," said Bob Willhelm, Vice Chancellor for Research and Development at UNL.

To help avoid potential spikes the University is introducing much more stringent testing protocols.

Students will be required to have a negative COVID test before coming back to campus in the spring and regular tests throughout the semester.

"Faculty and staff who are working on campus will be tested on a periodic basis and students will be tested on a periodic basis. Every other week students will be tested and faculty and staff will be tested at the same frequency," said Willhelm.

All of this testing is provided through new 24 hour saliva based tests and the results will be available for each student on a smartphone app they can download.

Alternatives will be available for students without smartphones.

While regular testing will be required for students and staff they will still have an opportunity to test should they be exposed or show symptoms.

"we continue to be very committed to offering a full college experience for the students we have on campus. We are operating our research and engagement activities in Lincoln and across the state at a very high rate. its important to do, this its important we continue to approach this in the safest manner," said Willhelm.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11328 on: December 10, 2020, 01:28:55 PM »
As of Wednesday morning, nearly 250,000 Iowans have been confirmed infected with COVID-19 since the pandemic began and 3,000 Iowans have died.

3.15 million people in Iowa

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11330 on: December 10, 2020, 01:38:54 PM »
"The 7 day positivity rate is below 10% for the first time since November 1"


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11331 on: December 10, 2020, 01:47:49 PM »
I could not read GA data whilst on vacation, it's not good at all.  The state is back to the previous highs, 7 day average over 3900 new cases reported per day now.

I expected this, I guess we all did.  I saw a lot of poor behaviours over the Holidays.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11332 on: December 10, 2020, 03:40:20 PM »
On the "poor behavior" front, my ex wants to take the kids to a big family Christmas get-together on Dec 19th. It's semi-outside (i.e. outdoors but in a big tent). She says they'll all be masked and each family grouping will segregate from others. I don't know exact numbers, but I'm guessing it might be 10 or more households. 

That's my weekend with the kids. Before COVID got so bad, the plan was that she was going to pick them up on the 19th and bring them back the morning of the 20th. 

I told her I didn't think it was a good idea to take them, but if it was THAT important, then she can pick them up on the 19th and keep them until our next scheduled transfer (Jan 2). 

So I get to do my "Christmas Eve" on Fri Dec 18 and "Christmas Morning" Sat Dec 19, and then I'm kidless until 2021. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11333 on: December 10, 2020, 03:57:26 PM »
I don't see much problem with a tent. The problem with true indoors is the recirculated air that literally blows anything and everything from the intake, throughout the space.  That's not going to occur in a tent.




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11334 on: December 10, 2020, 04:03:52 PM »
I'm sorry, I'm honestly not trying to start something here, but the numbers are telling us something obvious:  we have a large portion of the population that thinks having the right to do something means they must do it.  

You have the right to be selfish and irresponsible.
But it doesn't mean you have to be.

You have the right to own a gun.
But you don't have to.

You have the right to die from sexual asphyxiation.
But that's no way to go.

You have the right not to wear a mask around other people.
But maybe you should.


This is the difference between us and Sweden, us and South Korea, us and just about every other country on earth.  And it's embarrassing.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11335 on: December 10, 2020, 04:04:17 PM »
I don't see much problem with a tent. The problem with true indoors is the recirculated air that literally blows anything and everything from the intake, throughout the space.  That's not going to occur in a tent.
Granted since I'm not part of that family any more I can't speak too much to what they're doing now. However in the past when they did that (because it grew to be too many people for a true indoor celebration) it wasn't some EZ-UP with open sides and good ventilation. It was one of those big heavy things with solid sides, and only a small entrance at one end. 

So it's better than indoors, but it's not really "outside" either. 

Heck, here in SoCal I only have "recirculated" air indoors for about 4-6 weeks in the middle of the summer. The entire rest of the year I don't run the heater or the A/C, so does that make my house as safe as a tent? ;-) 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11336 on: December 10, 2020, 04:14:52 PM »
You have the right to be selfish and irresponsible.
But it doesn't mean you have to be.

You have the right not to wear a mask around other people.
But maybe you should.
There's a degree that I, as a libertarian, believe in the right to be selfish and irresponsible. I think that seat belt laws for cars and helmet laws for motorcycles are an infringement on our rights. 

But you wouldn't catch me in a car without a seat belt or on a motorcycle without a helmet. I have the right to be stupid; I also choose not to exercise that right. 

I'm not sure that I agree that you have the right to not wear a mask around other people in the middle of a pandemic, though. For a very simple reason: masks are only partly about self-protection. They're even more about protecting others FROM you. 

In my city, you can own a gun. In my city, you can fire a gun (at a human or animal) if you believe they are a legitimate threat to your person or other persons. However, you are NOT legally allowed to fire a gun within city limits otherwise. I can't go into my backyard and set up some targets and just start plinking. Because the population density here is so high that even if I had no intent to hurt someone, the chances of it happening are too high if we allow people to be popping off guns within the city. Where my BIL lives in Oregon, he can go out into his pasture behind his house and start plinking, because the conditions are different there.

A mask mandate in the middle of a pandemic is a much smaller example of the same thing. People think they don't have COVID just the same way they think that if they're plinking their gun in their backyard they're responsible enough not to hurt anyone. But there's a negative externality there that if a BUNCH of people in a city are plinking at targets in their backyard, eventually someone's gonna get hurt, and if you have large-scale non-masking in a heavily populated area, you're going to spread the virus far wider than if you didn't--even if nobody who spread it knew they had it. 

So we have mask mandates that say that if you're in a situation indoors, or if you're outdoors in an area where you can't responsibly distance from others, you have to wear a mask. Given the pandemic, I don't see this as a rights issue. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11337 on: December 10, 2020, 04:16:30 PM »
I'm not sure that I agree that you have the right to not wear a mask around other people in the middle of a pandemic, though. For a very simple reason: masks are only partly about self-protection. They're even more about protecting others FROM you.

Of course this is true.
But there's a lot more cities and towns not mandating it than mandating it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11338 on: December 10, 2020, 04:17:30 PM »

So we have mask mandates that say that if you're in a situation indoors, or if you're outdoors in an area where you can't responsibly distance from others, you have to wear a mask. Given the pandemic, I don't see this as a rights issue.
The anti-mask crowd aren't really ones for context.  They see everything as a rights issue.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11339 on: December 10, 2020, 04:20:45 PM »
Granted since I'm not part of that family any more I can't speak too much to what they're doing now. However in the past when they did that (because it grew to be too many people for a true indoor celebration) it wasn't some EZ-UP with open sides and good ventilation. It was one of those big heavy things with solid sides, and only a small entrance at one end.

So it's better than indoors, but it's not really "outside" either.

Heck, here in SoCal I only have "recirculated" air indoors for about 4-6 weeks in the middle of the summer. The entire rest of the year I don't run the heater or the A/C, so does that make my house as safe as a tent? ;-)

Well yeah, a plastic sweatbox isn't what I pictured when you said tent. 

 

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