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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10976 on: November 24, 2020, 01:57:05 PM »
whenever packed into an airport or on a plane for extended periods of time within 2-3 feet of others, there's significant risk of transmission of bacteria and virus
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10977 on: November 24, 2020, 02:12:16 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 24, 2020, 01:19:01 PM
Well, you could, but everyone would have to test a week prior and then quarantine. Not everyone can do that though.
And that's the issue.  My mom works in a hospital, so she can't, our schools only just closed this week, so my son and wife were still going in; and my SIL is an essential worker
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10978 on: November 24, 2020, 02:19:31 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 24, 2020, 01:55:13 PM
Really - I dunno before covid many on this board mentioned getting illness presumably from other passangers and the recirculating air on board.I've not had covid YET that I know of but I wouldn't get on a flight.Unless it was CD in his old crop duster and we were headed to a board meeting
Before COVID nobody was wearing masks on planes... So that's a big change now.

There was a recent study [paid for by the airlines, so discount it if you'd like] saying that with masks, distancing, and the relatively robust and air exchange on airplanes--which is passed through medical-grade filters, it's not particularly high risk.

That's counterintuitive, of course, given that our brains think we're just cooped up inside a sealed metal tube breathing each others' germs and that must be dangerous, but I assume their air filtration is really quite good. 

Of course, the below link also refers to a 7 1/2 hour flight to Ireland that was the source of an outbreak, so maybe the airline-sponsored studies are missing something lol...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/10/27/safe-to-fly-during-covid-19-pandemic-reports-differ/6041206002/

Personally I wouldn't get on an airplane for pleasure travel at this point. It would have to be critically necessary travel. But if it came down to it, I doubt my risk of contracting COVID would be that substantially higher than many other activities.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10979 on: November 24, 2020, 02:47:00 PM »
I have gotten sick after nearly every 8+ hour plane flight I've been on over the past few years, nearly every time.  I started being very attentive to hand hygiene of late, before the COVID thing.  And I might be catching whatever in the airport of course, or in the country because I'm not up to speed with their germs.  If I use the head, I really clean up when I get back to my seat, gel on hands and wipe down surfaces in seating area.  A less than two hour flight I wouldn't get up.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10980 on: November 24, 2020, 02:47:49 PM »
Redeye is the way I would probably travel now, if I had to.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10981 on: November 24, 2020, 03:05:17 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 24, 2020, 02:47:00 PM
I have gotten sick after nearly every 8+ hour plane flight I've been on over the past few years, nearly every time.  I started being very attentive to hand hygiene of late, before the COVID thing.  And I might be catching whatever in the airport of course, or in the country because I'm not up to speed with their germs.  If I use the head, I really clean up when I get back to my seat, gel on hands and wipe down surfaces in seating area.  A less than two hour flight I wouldn't get up.
I wonder how much of it is your immune system. Like most parents, I spent about 6-12 months once my kids started preschool getting sick every two weeks, but now have an immune system of steel. Add to that that I spent the better part of a decade on an airplane no less than once a month, and it built up a lot more immunity. I don't get sick, pretty much ever. My wife ran into the same thing when she started working in the medical field--spent the first six months sick regularly, then didn't get sick pretty much ever. Until she met my kids, of course. Then it was another 6+ months for her because children are disgusting.  

If you're retired, and generally not around grubby little disgusting children much, your immune system might not be used to action lol...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10982 on: November 24, 2020, 03:12:07 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on November 24, 2020, 02:19:31 PM
Before COVID nobody was wearing masks on planes... So that's a big change now.

There was a recent study [paid for by the airlines, so discount it if you'd like] saying that with masks, distancing, and the relatively robust and air exchange on airplanes--which is passed through medical-grade filters, it's not particularly high risk.

distancing on the aircraft?

Only one passenger per row?
That would help.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10983 on: November 24, 2020, 03:18:21 PM »
Yeah, it obviously is in part my immune system coupled with taking far more 8+ hour flights than I once did.  I was really trying to keep my hands and surfaces around me and the wife clean thinking I was contacting something and rubbing my eye or nose.  I'm also older, I don't get sick here very often at all.

I do recall how I'd get sick when the kids started preschool and then that abated over time.  T cells etc.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10984 on: November 24, 2020, 03:41:54 PM »
The last redeye I was on was our long flight from Detroit to Frankfurt. Ever wandered through the Frankfurt airport on little sleep at 5 in the morning?

Actually, with tailwinds, I don't think that flight was 8 hours in the air. The last 8 hour flight I was on was FRA-ORD, which was then followed by our faithful re-enactment of the infamous Home Alone Spring Across O'Hare in order to get our puddle jumper back to DTW. Before that, it was nonstop flights to Hawaii a couple of times when I was a kid.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10985 on: November 24, 2020, 04:02:10 PM »
Getting back to the COVID discussion:

Possible glimmers of hope are emerging in the state's data. Both positives, percent positives, and active cases seem to have hit a peak early last week, and that things have been in some sort of uneasy steady state since. 

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/11/24/latest-on-covid-in-mn?fbclid=IwAR29PCK2Hwzk_O0pjtFJ72Rb0UMrVCHb2Y-VQsWSNGCXIhVGgDO-TC2Ru4Q
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10986 on: November 24, 2020, 04:05:46 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10987 on: November 24, 2020, 04:07:25 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10988 on: November 24, 2020, 04:46:43 PM »
Remember the couple my wife is the matron of honor for their wedding? The one where the groom-to-be tested positive and is now in bed hacking his lungs out? Well, sure enough, she started to show symptoms this weekend, and tested positive this morning.

The timeline matches up nicely with the infographic posted here a few pages ago. 

-They last saw each other Sunday the 15th. 
-He has been flying for work.
-They both tested negative last Tuesday. 
-He got sick at the end of last week
-Sunday she started to show symptoms. She was swabbed yesterday and got word of the positive test today.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10989 on: November 24, 2020, 05:13:18 PM »
gonna be a shit show after Thanksgiving

gonna F up Xmas for sure
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