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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10682 on: November 16, 2020, 01:16:05 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 16, 2020, 10:55:32 AM
so, do folks that think they have had the viru or think they may have had the virus take an anti-body test before they are given the vaccine?

or just vaccinate everyone?
  • We know there are multiple strains of the virus, and without genetic sequencing we may not know what strain the person previously had. 
  • We know that reinfection is possible [albeit we believe it is rare], but we don't know whether reinfection necessarily requires it to be a different strain than the first infection.
  • It's possible, although unknown, that the efficacy of the virus may be different depending on the strain.

So I'd say vaccinate everyone. What if you got the "L" strain initially and that doesn't confer immunity to the "GH" strain, and the vaccine will protect you from "GH" and the other widespread "G" variants? Might as well get the vaccine.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10683 on: November 16, 2020, 01:23:32 PM »
sounds reasonable

just thought in the early going with vaccinations, they should go to the people at higher risk.  Such as those that do not have antibodies
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10684 on: November 16, 2020, 01:32:30 PM »
We're never going to know how many have antibodies/exposure, because a huge number of people have had it already and didn't know it, or they were misdiagnosed in November/December/early January.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10685 on: November 16, 2020, 01:39:25 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 16, 2020, 01:23:32 PM
sounds reasonable

just thought in the early going with vaccinations, they should go to the people at higher risk.  Such as those that do not have antibodies
I think at the beginning it should go to the high risk regardless. I'm gonna let them be the guinea pigs before I get in line.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10686 on: November 16, 2020, 01:44:50 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on November 16, 2020, 01:39:25 PM
I think at the beginning it should go to the high risk regardless. I'm gonna let them be the guinea pigs before I get in line.
how noble

I assume high risk includes healthcare workers

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10687 on: November 16, 2020, 01:52:02 PM »
many healthcare workers and others at high risk have a high probability of already having the virus.

It should also be fairly easy to get these folks an antibody test

I suppose if the vaccine is cheap and readily available, just stick it in everyone's shoulder.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10688 on: November 16, 2020, 01:52:11 PM »
Would you consider Jim Harbaugh high risk?  Or is that different...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10689 on: November 16, 2020, 01:56:50 PM »
Imagine if the $2,000 epi-pen guy helped develop the vaccine and wanted to charge people $10,000?  

Would so many be pro-private sector then?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10690 on: November 16, 2020, 02:05:11 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on November 16, 2020, 01:39:25 PM
I think at the beginning it should go to the high risk regardless. I'm gonna let them be the guinea pigs before I get in line.
I'll get in line next week
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10691 on: November 16, 2020, 02:07:17 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 16, 2020, 01:56:50 PM
Imagine if the $2,000 epi-pen guy helped develop the vaccine and wanted to charge people $10,000? 

Would so many be pro-private sector then?
I wouldn't be in line next week.  I'd wait for the price to go down or take my chances like I've been doing for the last 7 months
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10692 on: November 16, 2020, 02:08:12 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 16, 2020, 01:56:50 PM
Imagine if the $2,000 epi-pen guy helped develop the vaccine and wanted to charge people $10,000? 

Would so many be pro-private sector then?
I just paid $10 in copay for two epi-pens.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10693 on: November 16, 2020, 02:10:14 PM »
and your insurance company still made money
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10694 on: November 16, 2020, 02:11:56 PM »
Probably, but I'll tell ya, I've gotten my money's worth in the past from BCBS. The spinal fusion alone set them back a ton of money. Then my wife had one. Lots of titanium in the house.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10695 on: November 16, 2020, 02:22:55 PM »
Insurance is like the casino

if you made a few bucks, a bunch of poor saps lost their asses
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