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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10654 on: November 15, 2020, 09:07:22 AM »


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10655 on: November 15, 2020, 09:24:37 AM »
A typical virus has a sheath in effect of fatty material that soap or ethanol tears apart and the viral particle comes apart.

Soap, or detergent, molecules can solubilize fats in water, which is why they work at removing grease or dirt, and killing germs.  We are very fortunate to have access to such cheap and effective agents.

They form some rather interesting and complex structures in water called micelles.

I saw some kind of lady's wash that claims to contain "Micellar Water", as if that is some special kind of a thing.  Marketing.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10656 on: November 15, 2020, 09:32:12 AM »
I find it interesting that the possible new vaccine will requite storage in at a very low temp but the virus its supposed to protect against is not affected by normal temps
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10657 on: November 15, 2020, 10:09:52 AM »
I find it interesting that the possible new vaccine will requite storage in at a very low temp but the virus its supposed to protect against is not affected by normal temps
That is characteristic of RNA of about any type, and the vaccine is based on RNA.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10658 on: November 15, 2020, 10:20:25 AM »
That is characteristic of RNA of about any type, and the vaccine is based on RNA.
This will present quite a challenge especially to rural areas
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10659 on: November 15, 2020, 01:10:47 PM »
“Ultra-cold vaccine may be shipped from the manufacturer in coolers that are packed with dry ice,” the Oct. 29 interim guidance said. “These coolers should be repacked with dry ice within 24 hours of receipt of shipment (day 0), and repacked again every five days to maintain required temperature. On day 15, the vaccine should be moved into the refrigerator, stored at 2 degrees C to 8 degrees C and used within five days (120 hours)."


Dry ice is pretty readily available and sublimes at -78°C.  Dry ice of course is CO2.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10660 on: November 15, 2020, 01:54:56 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10661 on: November 15, 2020, 02:00:56 PM »
Yeah, I think dry ice is accessible everywhere in the US except maybe Alaska in parts, and they can store it outside.  (Not really.)

If they ship vaccine to some very isolated community, they can easily ship additional dry ice as needed, it doesn't take much space.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10662 on: November 15, 2020, 02:18:49 PM »
a very isolated community might be small enough that it wouldn't take too many days to administer the vaccine
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10663 on: November 15, 2020, 02:30:20 PM »
It used to come to us in cubes about a foot on a side, a bit more, in a simple chest wrapped in brown paper.  It lasted quite a long time in a simple ice chest.

We used an ice pick to chip off pieces and then a grinder to get small pieces we'd mix with acetone.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10664 on: November 15, 2020, 03:49:54 PM »
This will present quite a challenge especially to rural areas
They don't need a vaccine for a fake virus....
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10665 on: November 15, 2020, 04:22:50 PM »
Take it somewhere else. It's tired.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10666 on: November 15, 2020, 06:07:27 PM »
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